i found this:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=123024596


i've learned something new today. i guess like many others, i had no idea. yikes. i figured laws on discrimination, age hiring/firing, etc, had come from rulings based on the constitution.

You think the 4th Amendment protects people from taking drug tests at private entities? I don't.

timing is everything!:)


btw, it should.

I think that the original intent of the founders, with regards to the fourth amendment, had to do much more with overreaching illegal searches and seizures. That would include warrantless searches of personal property or domeciles and doesn't really extend to what happens in a private business.

If a private school or business has a commitment to a drug-free workplace and lets that be known from the start then it is incumbent upon the student/employee seeking admission/employment there to understand it. Simply, in my opinion, if you don't like it, go elsewhere.

How this ties back in to PVal is a bit hazy because of the unique aspects of his life and time as a rider. However, if the State of California is what regulates his standing as a jockey and they've determined the criteria that will be used for him to remain eligible then he has the option to ride elsewhere, as he did for most of 2008-2010.

well, i guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. there weren't many big businesses back in the day; i doubt the founders thought that things such as bumper stickers or facebook postings would cause someone to get fired. or what you do on your free time for that matter.

did anyone read the article i posted? a guy fires workers who drink and he finds out, because he feels drinking is immoral. what has that got to do with your job? not a thing. it's certainly not illegal, and it's none of the owners business.