.......maybe we should take the oil.....fck um.

"Now this is something I really really really support!!"




Really,really.

thanks clyde

Oh forget it.



What did I say?

i support it as well. but this made me laugh and roll my eyes:


"I can report that, as promised, the rest of our troops in Iraq will come home by the end of the year," Obama said. "After nearly nine years, America's war in Iraq will be over."



yeah, now he claims credit. guy worked his ass off trying to get them to let us stay. but no agreement reached because iraq wouldn't give our soldiers immunity from prosecution. so, obama touts a promise kept, while actually doing everything possible not to keep it!!

that's something else that always cracked me up, when we'd tell iraq they had to pay for the cost of us invading them. we want repaid for money spent. hello, iraq has to pay for us bombing them, causing billions in damage? did they invite us to do this?? well, no.

Good point! Bottom line however is that it's finally over and for that I'm happy! Two down and one to go!

"Claiming credit" is a pretty unfair accusation, 'Zig - the Troops Agreement - which is the promise he's talking about - made by Bush has been public knowledge for ... years, as has the withdrawal date 12-31-2011, as has the US ongoing negotiations over the past year discussing if a limited number of troops there (Iraq's request, btw).

Geesh, what an unfair attack on Obama. He's just doing what we knew the end would probably be, from the negotiated agreements and ongoing negotiations, months ago.

Just be happy the troops are home.

lol
no, it's not unfair. obama fought tooth and nail to keep us over there. he failed, so he's still trying to spin this as a positive. had iraq agreed to immunity for our troops, they'd be staying. i'm glad they didn't agree!
yes, i am happy the troops are coming home, they should never have been sent to begin with.

:zz: You mean like when combat troops were supposed to all come home now per the Agreement, but Obama got combat troops out a year ago last August?

And it seems unfair to say, "Obama fought tooth and nail to keep us over there", when (after he got combat troops out a year early) the Iraqi's wanted us to keep some troops there to train, but then wouldn't accomodate what the US demands were. Trying to work with Iraqi requests is "fought tooth and nail"?

Geeshus - the guy announced, "The war is over". It is! That is exactly what any President would announce right now. Using it as an excuse to badmouth Obama and call this a failure (?!) is a pretty tacky attack.

yes, obama and company wanted to stay. the sole sticking point was immunity, iraq wouldn't grant it.
you can call it unfair all you want, it doesn't change the truth of the matter.

:zz: Because the Iraqis requested us to, and only with a few thousand training troops ! "Obama and company wanted to stay" - except where he got 40,000 combat troops out a year early?

Well, we can all be happy that's done.

:rolleyes:

yes, we can only consider obama in a good light. sorry, i forgot that. although he and his administration were doing everything possible to stay, absolutely i give him sole credit for not doing so. he should have statues built in his honor for doing what was said would be done, regardless of what he really wanted.

Well, the Republican Party and the GOP Presidential candidates are today uniformly and aggressively attacking Obama for getting the troops out and not staying

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news...raq-withdrawal

How DARE Obama end that war!

US politics are completely effed.

he took the troops from iraq and sent them to afganistan..wake up riot..your lame duck prez is done..

Yes, that's what we ELECTED Obama to do, precisely what he SAID he would do: take the troops from Bush's faked and lied about war in Iraq, go into Afghanistan, and kill bin Laden.

And oh, yeah, there were lots of Republicans who wanted the direction to be after the terrorists in Afghanistan, too - until bin Laden was actually killed by this President.

Mission accomplished.

It's hilarious, watching the Obama-hating right twist itself into pretzels to attack a President of the United States for following a Bush Agreement and ending a war.

The Republican party has become a ridiculous parody of its most crazy base members.

well, they're idiots too. but then, if you think they are wrong for saying we should stay, how can you defend obama for trying to do the same?? and yeah, he tried. and tried.


yeah, they're effed, because we're all effed i suppose.

yeah, not sure when that'll end. not looking too good. had we not gone to iraq way back when, we'd probably be out of afganistan by now too. that way, instead of just helping nato in libya, we could have invaded syria by now too.

see, wars are bad. unless a democrat is for them, then they're good.

:zz: My personal opinion is that all the troops should have been gone years ago. I am not "defending" Obama for anything, I am pointing out the facts:

Obama got 40,000 combat troops out a year before scheduled by Bush agreement
the Iraqi's asked us to leave 4,000-5,000 troops as trainers
Obama tried to work with the Iraqi's on that
Iraqi's wouldn't protect Americans
Obama said no those 4,00-5,000 trainers will not be there.

Geesh, how in the hell is the above, "Obama and his administration trying to stay in Iraq" ???? With no combat troops?

So you are of the position that the US should be involved in zero wars?

We should not have pulled out of Iraq and moved into Afghanistan where the terrorists actually were?

We should not have gone and tried to get bin Laden?

When the Libyan resistance asked the US for help, we should not have gone to NATO for them, and gotten British and French troops to help them, instead of us, while we provided missles and drones and kept our troops out of it?

Just trying to figure out your position.