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Riot 05-24-2011 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 778730)
Bush didn't give the citizens of Crawford a fat check like Obama always does when traveling and Bush saved money on hotel, room service, etc etc by visiting HIS home. That he pays taxes on. Obama sponges off of donors and pays em off for use of their homes via company check. Us and in U.S. taxpayers. Huge difference once again.
Wow. You just make crap up out of thin air, don't you?

I'll bite. Put up or shut up, Dell. Post the proof. I want to see all the times Obama took a vacation since his election, stayed in a donor's home, and later gave that donor US tax dollars. Surely you have a list.

Guess Obama doesn't get credit for paying taxes on his home, that he isn't occupying, huh? Naw, of course not.

And why the hell are you trying to compare a state visit-government function with a private vacation?

dellinger63 05-24-2011 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 778732)
Wow. You just make crap up out of thin air, don't you?

I'll bite. Put up or shut up, Dell. Post the proof. I want to see all the times Obama took a vacation since his election, stayed in a donor's home, and later gave that donor US tax dollars. Surely you have a list.

Guess Obama doesn't get credit for paying taxes on his home, that he isn't occupying, huh? Naw, of course not.
of course he gets credit for his Chicago home though he's been there like 10 days in the last 2 years. So much for his love of Chicago.

Where is his vacation home? Wasn't aware he was staying with family in Ireland but good for him! What's the amount on the check he's leaving behind? Where did he stay last christmas while he was in Hawaii? While golfing with his good friend who likes prostitutes. What did that cost in lodging while he was there? BTW I know Obama sent Air Force One on a photo op w/o him, when did W do that?

Riot 05-24-2011 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 778736)
of course he gets credit for his Chicago home though he's been there like 10 days in the last 2 years. So much for his love of Chicago.
Yeah. There's no reason Obama couldn't continue to live there, at his house in Chicago, and commute via Air Force One O'Hare to Reagan on a daily basis. Why is Obama costing us money, living in the White House! What a loser! Sure, he was elected President of the United States, and he's been a bit busy - but he should be in Chicago on vacation more!

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Where is his vacation home? Wasn't aware he was staying with family in Ireland but good for him! What's the amount on the check he's leaving behind? Where did he stay last christmas while he was in Hawaii? While golfing with his good friend who likes prostitutes. What did that cost in lodging while he was there? BTW I know Obama sent Air Force One on a photo op w/o him, when did W do that?
That's all stuff you just maintained you knew with your last post. When you just said that Obama stays in donors homes then illegally gives them tax dollars. So - fess up. Give the proof.

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BTW I know Obama sent Air Force One on a photo op w/o him, when did W do that?
Really? You do? When?

Coach Pants 05-25-2011 04:46 PM
...back to his roots.

Nah, he's with another crew now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_y3psTDT58

Coach Pants 05-25-2011 04:54 PM
...this is from last year. Most of us know how the minister reacted to his buddy in north Africa getting roughed up.

If Obama doesn't kiss the ring this guy is going to turn on him. Cain is being pushed by the Fox News crew for a reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzD5ip6_KQE pt. 1

http://youtu.be/HEGGUQ3yiCg pt. 2

This gives the other frat hope.

dellinger63 05-25-2011 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 778741)


Really? You do? When?
Here you go dopey.....
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ew-york-nerve/

and as far as Obama staying at donors' homes and reimbursing again look up christmas Hawaii stay and check out lodging expenses. Obama isn't as transperant as he states so it takes a little digging. The reason I bring up Chicago is because most people if away from home on a job want to return. But just like spending to prevent going bankrupt this guy is opposite of anything normal.

Riot 05-25-2011 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 779066)
You said, "BTW I know Obama sent Air Force One on a photo op w/o him, when did W do that?"

Obama didn't know anything about that photo op, did he? He didn't "approve it" and he didn't "send" that airplane anywhere ;)

Quoting your article supports that: "When President Obama learned of the episode on Monday afternoon, aides said, he, too, was furious. Senior administration officials conveyed the president’s anger in a meeting with Mr. Caldera on Monday afternoon."

And we all know it was a military officer that sent that plane - not Obama.

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and as far as Obama staying at donors' homes and reimbursing again look up christmas Hawaii stay and check out lodging expenses. Obama isn't as transperant as he states so it takes a little digging.
You said he did it now, as President, and gives them taxpayer money. You made the claim, so you must already have the proof, so you do the digging and support it. Or stop saying it. If you dislike the current President of the United States, I assume it would be for real reasons - not made up ones.

dellinger63 05-25-2011 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779068)
You said, "BTW I know Obama sent Air Force One on a photo op w/o him, when did W do that?"

Obama didn't know anything about that photo op, did he? He didn't "approve it" and he didn't "send" that airplane anywhere ;)

Quoting your article supports that: "When President Obama learned of the episode on Monday afternoon, aides said, he, too, was furious. Senior administration officials conveyed the president’s anger in a meeting with Mr. Caldera on Monday afternoon."

And we all know it was a military officer that sent that plane - not Obama.



You said he did it now, as President, and gives them taxpayer money. You made the claim, so you must already have the proof, so you do the digging and support it. Or stop saying it. If you dislike the current President of the United States, I assume it would be for real reasons - not made up ones.
so Bush is to blame for everything but Obama nothing. As Barney Frank would say, 'talking to a kitchen table'. The White House released an apology for what? Show me the W apology for the same. BTW The Bush tax cuts are now the Obama tax cuts as well so where's your outrage?

dellinger63 05-25-2011 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779068)
And we all know it was a military officer that sent that plane - not Obama.


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and what did Obama the supreme commander do with him?

Riot 05-25-2011 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 779074)
and what did Obama the supreme commander do with him?
What does that have to do with you falsely saying Obama approved it and sent that plane over NY himself?

"Your entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts" - Who Knows

Riot 05-25-2011 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 779073)
so Bush is to blame for everything but Obama nothing. As Barney Frank would say, 'talking to a kitchen table'. The White House released an apology for what? Show me the W apology for the same. BTW The Bush tax cuts are now the Obama tax cuts as well so where's your outrage?
No. I said nothing about Bush, or blame, or kitchen tables, or tax cuts, or apology. You made the claim that the President stays in donor houses and gives them our taxpayer money, and I said prove it.

dellinger63 05-25-2011 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779076)
What does that have to do with you falsely saying Obama approved it and sent that plane over NY himself?

"Your entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts" - Who Knows
where did I say he approved it. It happened under his watch, was a huge fubar, and as President I'm wondering what action was taken against whoever was directly responsible. You are aware Bush wasn't on the ground in Iraq prior to whipping their as$es right?

Riot 05-25-2011 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 779078)
where did I say he approved it.
You said he personally did it. He did not.

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"BTW I know Obama sent Air Force One on a photo op w/o him,
Nice try to wiggle out of what you said. An apology and admit that it wasn't really true would better suit. Especially as Obama agrees 100% with you that it was a bonehead move. So rather silly of you to attack Obama for something did he never did. Especially when he and you agree completely.

dellinger63 05-25-2011 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779077)
No. I said nothing about Bush, or blame, or kitchen tables, or tax cuts, or apology. You made the claim that the President stays in donor houses and gives them our taxpayer money, and I said prove it.
And as I said Christmas last year! Hint he didn't stay in a hotel! Lodging expenses! It should read zero, in fact shouldn't even be there at all!

dellinger63 05-25-2011 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779079)
Especially when he and you agree completely.
I would have discharged the guy with a lower rank what did Obama do? You know since we agree completely.

Riot 05-25-2011 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 779080)
And as I said Christmas last year! Hint he didn't stay in a hotel! Lodging expenses! It should read zero, in fact shouldn't even be there at all!
Hey, you make wild claims, don't expect them to be believed until you prove them. Show there were lodging expenses paid out of our taxpayer dollars or stop speculating (and realize that the President personally pays for alot within the White House, on travels, etc)

And since when have Presidents been forbidden from staying with friends? LOL - dear god, Obama could walk on water and you'd attack him for being against wet.

Coach Pants 05-25-2011 08:32 PM
He's more likely to walk on water than save the country from total bankruptcy.

At least while he's failing colossally he'll be doing so by working hard. Hard worker. That's what matters.

FEMA saved Tuscaloosa and no one else.

dellinger63 05-25-2011 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779083)
Hey, you make wild claims, don't expect them to be believed until you prove them.

And since when have Presidents been forbidden from staying with friends? LOL - dear god, Obama could walk on water and you'd attack him for being against wet.

I'll make you a deal. I will prove Obama stayed with friends in Hawaii and the trip included billing for lodging. Loser leaves until unemployment is under 8%.

You agree Obama stayed with friends this Christmas or do I have to start there?

Riot 05-25-2011 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 779086)
I'll make you a deal. I will prove Obama stayed with friends in Hawaii and the trip included billing for lodging. Loser leaves until unemployment is under 8%.

You agree Obama stayed with friends this Christmas or do I have to start there?
I agreed Obama stayed with friends in Hawaii, it was all over the news. Prove the part that he paid the rent with taxpayer - not personal - dollars.

And no, nobody will leave.

Edit: just looked it up, and he didn't stay with friends this past Christmas, it was a rental. Are you sure you are talking about this? Maybe you're talking about the trip before that?

SCUDSBROTHER 05-26-2011 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 778549)
some things will never change.

The funny thing is the Democrats who hated bush so much but support obama. He's basically exactly like Bush fiscally with some added steriods. And he is very similar to Bush as a commander in chief, minus the whole Iraq fiasco.
That's a big minus. Plus, Bush would of blown Osama up, with all his lil kiddies n' wife (wives. ) They'd of found kiddie heads, but no Osama head. Obama played some incredible poker face the night before (tearing Trump a new hole.) I remember Joey going on Facebook to say the guy was hilarious etc. Who knows if that even made them even less on guard when the Seals went in. He aced that shyt. Long as I been looking (before now,) no President has aced a GD thing........Also, Bush put Justices on the Supreme Court that allowed big business to spend whatever they want on advertisements for political candidates. One of the most important things a President will do is pick Supreme Court Justices. All the Conservatives backed big business. All the Liberal Justices were against it.....Not the same.


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