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Cannon Shell 04-16-2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by outofthebox (Post 769511)
Real happy for Jon Court and Jinks Fires...Living the dream. That said, how in the world do you handicap this years Derby. Will the favorite be under 5-1? I was cringing during the race listening to Wallace.

Worst Derby ever?

arizonadave 04-16-2011 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lord007 (Post 768804)
Agreed..:)

25-1, that was even better

ateamstupid 04-16-2011 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 769513)
Thanks. I guess with the race call going the way it did, it's probably a good thing that I didn't have to hear it. Maybe Archarcharch's name will grow on Haskin. What happened with The Factor? Did he not make the lead, and it hit the fan after that?

Never made the lead. Sway Away blew past him on the turn and appeared to be in control but faded to fourth in deep stretch.

pointman 04-16-2011 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 769516)
Worst Derby ever?

But a great betting race!

bare it all 04-16-2011 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 769513)
Thanks. I guess with the race call going the way it did, it's probably a good thing that I didn't have to hear it. Maybe Archarcharch's name will grow on Haskin. What happened with The Factor? Did he not make the lead, and it hit the fan after that?

Almost exactly. I think he got bored in the gate, plus JPs Gusto's jock gunned the lead and The Factor just trudged around like a sulking teenager. I think everyone but Bob Baffert was tricked by this pony. No lead = no run.

Archarcharch looked amazing in the post parade and seems a tall, lanky horse - reminds me of a european horse or maybe something from oz.

Cannon Shell 04-16-2011 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 769513)
Thanks. I guess with the race call going the way it did, it's probably a good thing that I didn't have to hear it. Maybe Archarcharch's name will grow on Haskin. What happened with The Factor? Did he not make the lead, and it hit the fan after that?

stalked wide, attempted to move 3 wide around the crows on the turn, had nothing

somerfrost 04-16-2011 06:45 PM

Top two looked pretty good, I do like Archarcharch a bit but he was all out to win.

NTamm1215 04-16-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 769516)
Worst Derby ever?

You got it.

outofthebox 04-16-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 769519)
But a great betting race!

Exactly. All the sharp horses coming into the race are all stretch runners. I guess i have to give Mo a mulligan. I hope he shows some spark in his training over at CD. Tough to get a read on Pletcher though, he just never lets his horses do much in the am.

randallscott35 04-16-2011 06:50 PM

R Heat Lightning

outofthebox 04-16-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 769496)
And Terry Wallace gets the nod for Worst call in the history of horse racing.

And for his swan song, he gets to call a 1 3/4 race to end the meet...

bare it all 04-16-2011 06:53 PM

Luckily he'll only call about a mile's worth.

hurricanefrank 04-16-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 769518)
Never made the lead. Sway Away blew past him on the turn and appeared to be in control but faded to fourth in deep stretch.

The Factor can't rate. Period.

Seattleallstar 04-16-2011 06:57 PM

Jaycito is the last hope

geojr130 04-16-2011 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by arizonadave (Post 768782)
I still like Archarcharch in the Arkansas Derby.

Nice call didn't see the race yet. I liked him too. Can't bet on oak. fhttps://www.ebetusa.com/racing/rom . Had a ruff day working:zz:

mbahadur 04-16-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 769522)
Top two looked pretty good, I do like Archarcharch a bit but he was all out to win.

Although he got a nice pace setup (and the Derby will probably have a similar pace), I liked how well Nehro was closing at the end for the second race in a row. He should relish the extra furlong. The time of 1:49:34 was not bad and is about the same as what Line of David ran last year (beating Super Saver by a neck). Nehro did run once as a 2-year old.

Merlinsky 04-16-2011 07:03 PM

Congratulations to Jon Court. :) A sentimental favorite, whatever the final odds of Archarcharch.

NTamm1215 04-16-2011 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mbahadur (Post 769536)
Although he got a nice pace setup (and the Derby will probably have a similar pace), I liked how well Nehro was closing at the end for the second race in a row. He should relish the extra furlong. The time of 1:49:34 was not bad and is about the same as what Line of David ran last year (beating Super Saver by a neck). Nehro did run once as a 2-year old.

He's easily as good a horse as Dialed In and should be a larger price.

LARHAGE 04-16-2011 07:05 PM

I think Sway Away could have made a better showing if he didn't go all in at the 3/8 pole, way premature move. I couldn't believe how bad that race call was I thought the sound went out on my TV, he's brutal.

Seattleallstar 04-16-2011 07:07 PM

I dont know about TVG people, but their stream was non existent to horrible during the race. This is why these races should be shown on TV, probably a million people using the same feed for the race, created alot of latency in connection.


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