There are obviously theories and thoughts as to why everything panned-out like it did. It's odd though that a horse arrives at Palm Meadows in early December but does not start in a "race" until early March.

That said, he obviously worked hard yesterday and that should tighten him up. But I'm skeptical about his ability, at this point, to recapture his 2-year-old form.

I'll just say that I'm really disappointed, though not shocked. He was handled this spring in a fashion that coming up short was almost to be expected, even for an enormously talented individual as he showed himself to be last year. I wanted to believe- really I did. I don't need better odds or a Derby "score", I wanted a superstar....I hope he's not hurt, and I hope he gets tight in the next 4 weeks, but this just sucks today.

As good of a trainer as Pletcher is, and his numbers say he is the best in the game. That being said, he gets the best horses year after year and his Derby record is poor. So maybe his method of getting horses to the derby is not the best? I do not know.

You've got to be kidding.

Is it April Fool's Day again.

Just sayin my man. I'm not necessarily saying their yours, but if the shoe fits..........

Interesting. If you dislike someone who comes off as a pompous douche, you're envious of them. Anyone catch the comments he made in regards to Zito and the Florida Derby? Douchebag move.

And maybe I missed something, but the trainer is still Pletcher. Did he become beloved all of the sudden and I missed it? Wasn't there a thread just last week (after his horses ran like energizer bunnies at Gulfstream all weekend) about him?

He has a history of running his mouth and saying dumb things because he can't say no to the camera. He did the same thing last year before the Hopeful with his line about how he was confident that Stay Thirsty would be much better than Boys at Tosconova in 2011.

If it's bringing you some satisfaction that Uncle Mo lost yesterday you're probably not envious, a miserable person, or someone who hates Indian Charlie.

Once again, I posted that as a general comment in response to some people asking why this guy is not liked. It wasn't necessarily aimed at you.

I posted this after I researched and read up on the guy. I couldn't find anything negative about him. Therefore, the only thing I could come up with is envy. There are many out there that are pissed at their own lives, so they try to make themselves feel better by cutting others down.

Yes, I did catch those comments....and when I mentioned it here on this board i was called "stupid" by some of the "smart" people on this board. i'm just happy i wasn't one of the "smart" ones who wagered $466,788 to win on mo because the pick 3 that i played paid very nicely!

Oh so it's an image thing. I get it. Hmmmmm

:tro::tro::tro:Now those comments makes him come off as a sore loser and envious

I am envious of Richard Burch and his redboarding skills.

It wasn't aimed at me, but you told me if the shoe fits. Whatever, own it if you're going to insult me.

I wanted him to win. I needed him for a bet (not paying much but better than ripping it up) and he seemed like a really good one, in an era with so few of them. I wasn't happy at all he lost.

But it doesn't make his human connections easy to root for and it has nothing to do with envy.

I would never insult you Hoss!

I didn't bet the horse, it was a bad bet, even in a P4. Something I learned from Andy. I know he had a bomb earlier, I listen to his show everyday. Your digging for burning embers, when there is none. Pointing out something he teaches, so what. What does getting up early getting ready to work have anything to with anything? Some people just love to start up BS.

Uncle Mo apparently will get some bloodwork. Hopefully he is not suffering from Lifeattenitis


http://www.drf.com/news/uncle-mo-hav...ky-derby-trail

I just want to know why you think it was a bad bet?
To me on paper, I thought the horse looked unbeatable. I thought the Motion horse was a little intriguing with the addition of blinkers, but I thought that there was going to be other horses looking for the lead as well. That's why I was kind of shocked when Uncle Mo found the lead so early. The race just never came together the way I envisioned it. Also, I never thought Toby's Corner was going to be the one coming late especially with the addition of the shades.

I didn't bet the race or the sequence, but I will admit Uncle Mo would have been a definite single on any ticket I would have put in. Then I could have spread in the other races where it looked like it was going to be needed. Like I said, I'm just curious why you feel like it was a bad bet.


What do you have against the guy having a pick 3 that paid very nicely?...................:rolleyes:

You are suppose to try and beat horses at these odds. Granted he looked unbeatable, so the second thing you look at is investment vs payoff. Anyone and everyone had Mo as a single on a P4 ticket if they played one. That alone draws down the pot. Given the fact that the Favs have been coming in at a 40%+ rate at the Big A all winter, how much do you think it would have payed vs your investment. To me, not enough to lay out 5x5x1x5.