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Antitrust32 03-28-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 763886)
Did I say it was similar to dirt? All I said was he handled the surface well. The horse has run 6 times, prior to the UAE Derby he had one win and a couple seconds, nothing earth shattering to be sure...trying him on the dirt is not so far-fetched and his connections might just roll the dice...or not!

this is what you said

"his breeding indicates turf preference but he handled the surface in Dubai so there is no reason he might not enjoy dirt."

its okay to admit you were wrong.

blackthroatedwind 03-28-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 763876)
I just found out that our local 'mush' of the century - Meyer Lansky - is Jewish.

In fact - four of the people who frequently sit at my fathers table at PID are Jewish. I didn't even know we had Jews in Erie. That's the problem with them ... you can't spot them by looking at them... and they all don't have obvious Jewy names like Finklestein.

You just found out that Meyer Lansky is Jewish?????

I guess it wouldn't help to tell you that the Hyman Roth character from Godfather II is modeled after Meyer Lansky.

iamthelurker 03-28-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 763875)
Go help your Mother in the barn.

I actually just did! :D

randallscott35 03-28-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 763944)
You just found out that Meyer Lansky is Jewish?????

I guess it wouldn't help to tell you that the Hyman Roth character from Godfather II is modeled after Meyer Lansky.

The name Hyman I'm sure will be making a comeback in the near future.

randallscott35 03-28-2011 01:55 PM

This is the business we've chosen.

randallscott35 03-28-2011 01:57 PM

I may be the only person who prefers Godfather 2 to the original.

The Indomitable DrugS 03-28-2011 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 763944)
You just found out that Meyer Lansky is Jewish?????

I guess it wouldn't help to tell you that the Hyman Roth character from Godfather II is modeled after Meyer Lansky.

The guys name is actually Meyer Gold ... but everyone calls him Meyer Lansky. He's epic at stopping chalk.

Pretty sad - but I've never made it through a whole Godfather movie. I've seen parts of them.

somerfrost 03-28-2011 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 763922)
this is what you said

"his breeding indicates turf preference but he handled the surface in Dubai so there is no reason he might not enjoy dirt."

its okay to admit you were wrong.

Follow your own advice. Where did I say the Dubai surface was dirt? All I said, again, was that he has run on turf and the surface in Dubai, he won and placed on turf and ran a close second in Dubai so there is nothing that indicates that he might not run well on dirt...I can't say he will anymore than you can say he won't...all I said was that I find him more interesting than others this weekend should he run in the Derby!

somerfrost 03-29-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 763967)
Follow your own advice. Where did I say the Dubai surface was dirt? All I said, again, was that he has run on turf and the surface in Dubai, he won and placed on turf and ran a close second in Dubai so there is nothing that indicates that he might not run well on dirt...I can't say he will anymore than you can say he won't...all I said was that I find him more interesting than others this weekend should he run in the Derby!

From today's Bloodhorse:
Mrs. John Magnier’s Master of Hounds, who was beaten a nose in the March 26 UAE Derby (UAE-II) in his 3-year-old debut, could make his next start in the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (gr. I), trainer Aidan O’Brien told the British website “And They’re Off.”

The other option would be the Qipco Two Thousand Guineas (Eng-I)

Master of Hounds, a son of Kingmambo – Silk and Scarlet, by Sadler's Wells, bred in Kentucky by Silk and Scarlet Syndicate, ran an exceptionally game race in the 1 3/16-mile UAE Derby, losing a head bob to the Godolphin-owned filly Khawlah, winner of the Al Tayer Motors UAE Oaks (UAE-III).

It was his first start since finishing sixth in the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Turf (gr. II). Prior to that he was third in the group I Racing Post Trophy.

“Master Of Hounds is in the English 2000 Guineas (Eng-I) and would have a Kentucky Derby option," O'Brien said. “We will see how he is and the next couple of weeks will tell us a lot.

“The Kentucky Derby is a great race. He handled the surface well out in Dubai and he's a horse that has tactical speed and we were delighted with his run. I’m sure the race will be considered and will be spoken about.”





Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz1I0dGrT54

blackthroatedwind 03-29-2011 12:24 PM

Every other horse in the race just became better value.

randallscott35 03-29-2011 12:25 PM

We need a new % chart on Master Hounds Doug....I'm thinking .002% chance but I might be high.

randallscott35 03-29-2011 12:28 PM

We've found this year's Stately Victor.

Joes Blazing Aaron, wire-to-wire winner of the Grade 3 Palm Beach Stakes on the Gulfstream Park turf in his last start, has been moved into the barn of trainer Mike Maker and will try to move into the Kentucky Derby picture by running next in the $750,000 Blue Grass Stakes on Polytrack at Keeneland.

jms62 03-29-2011 12:40 PM

Quite the Motley Crew being bantered about. Norman Abjorensen is looking like he has a shot to hit the Super with this bunch. If he gets in that is.

GenuineRisk 03-29-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 763952)
I may be the only person who prefers Godfather 2 to the original.

Uh, no. Now, if you'd said you preferred Part 3...


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