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Nowhere else but in North America do trainers regularly cite those needs - and to say that horses cannot perform at top levels, within say three to seven days after a previous top effort is simply ignorant. It happens with absolute regularity most everywhere else in the world at some point in the year. The closest to that happening in the US is the Triple Crown. Would anyone like to offer some suggestions as to what it is that makes our trainers unable to garner the same performance from their horses as trainers on four other continents? |
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I think what the horses are capable of and what the trainer decides to do are two very different things. |
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Some G1 horses... Cape of Good Hope... 41 starts http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/O...=B243&search=1 Bullish Luck, 54 starts http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/O...=C155&search=1 Scintillation, 45 starts http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/O...=C228&search=1 Viva Pataca, 41 starts http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/h...=G096&search=1 Good Ba Ba, 44 starts http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/h...=E201&search=1 (For the record it's Chile and not Chilie but it does look kinda cute this way). :p |
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I'll have to ask NTamm if I can use his All the suckers for De Kock line somewhere else. |
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Average starts per season here - by year.
1960 - 11.31 1965 - 10.88 1970 - 10.22 1975 - 10.23 1980 - 9.21 1985 - 8.28 1990 - 7.94 1991 - 7.98 1992 - 8.03 1993 - 7.86 1994 - 7.84 1995 - 7.73 1996 - 7.59 1997 - 7.54 1998 - 7.29 1999 - 7.19 2000 - 7.10 2001 - 6.97 2002 - 6.80 2003 - 6.62 2004 - 6.57 2005 - 6.45 2006 - 6.37 2007 - 6.31 2008 - 6.20 2009 - 6.23 2010 - 6.11 Can 2011 finally be the year that it dips under 6? |
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Trainers are going to say the breed has changed and horses cant take the training anymore. Owners have become trained that horses can only run once a month From 1960 to 1975 the drop was about 10% From 1975 to 1990 the drop was closer to 25% From 1990 to 2005 the drop was close to 20% If the trend continues by 2020 starts per year will be around 5 What happened to the breed between 1975 and 1990? You think conditional claimers are to be blamed for some short fall. I think trainers now have so many options they do wait for the best opportunity. Trainers dont really earn much more then a modest wage with day rate fees so I would think they are motivated like most to find a spot that a horse should earn the most money in. |
I don't know what to think about that... I'm sure there are several good reasons that have contributed to it. Perhaps some more strongly than others.
Sometimes you just have to say I don't know Cannon Shell gets all fired up whenever lasix is brought up - but that is a medication that dehydrates...and it's use started getting strong in the late 70's I think. My father was a career 15% trainer - he started training in the early to mid 70's before you could use it at the tracks around here. He said when he couldn't use it he never did - and later when he could use it he almost always did. He thinks it doesn't make a big difference in how they come back - but generally - the same horse didn't bounce back right away quite as well when they raced with it compared to when the same horse didn't race with it. He's taken it himself before working out at the gym and says he felt fine working out on it - but a lot more exhuasted than normal afterwards. |
The issue is less lasix and more that lasix can be used to mask other agents.
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IMO steroid abuse was way more detrimental to horses than Lasix could ever be yet since they were completely banned the numerical trends havent changed a bit or worsened. Dehydration in racehorses is not a major issue to deal with, especially when you only have to run 6 times a year. |
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