Originally Posted by Riot
(Post 753925)
"Your state" is the front page story on all American news outlets, some internationals, and what is happening there is related to what is happening in Ohio, Florida, etc. and Washington.
Nobody has to "stay out of your state" and ignore the story.
you don't live here, you don't vote here and you don't pay taxes here, worry about your own state
But not for what their current contracts say they can. All their collective bargaining rights are being eliminated, except being able to bargain base pay only and only up to the consumer price index. That is virtually nothing. Pennies.
First: Walker is arbitrarily cutting benefits, without sitting down and talking to the Unions about what they can give or sacrifice. That's his right, I suppose. Although I would think he'd bargain, because during his campaign he said he'd work with unions, and now he's not. He's a liar, but most politicians are. Nothing wrong with cutting benefits when there is a deficit, and the unions said they are willing to work with him. Why Walker is ignoring that is a puzzlement. This isn't much of an issue, really.
"Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters."
Can you guess if this was a republican or a democratic quote.
Walker did sneak this bill in last Friday, unannounced, and literally try to sneak it through with little debate. Why? The second reason, below:
Nothing was snuck thru. Walker campaigned on this, did this in Milwaukee to the best of his ability and spoke about it after elected and in his inagural speech. If you are surprised by this one you are an idiot or 2 you don't live here and have no clue
Second: the most important thing, the thing completely unrelated to any "deficit" busting, and why 30,000 are in the capital, is Walkers sneaky plan for elimination of collective bargaining. That's straight up Union busting, plain and simple. That has zero to do with any deficit. Nothing at all.
Why is Walker trying to bust up the unions? Because the unions were the three biggest contributors to the Democratic party the last election cycle. The Republican Governors Association has instructed the Govs to try and union-bust in 2011, prior to the next election cycle, to eliminate Democratic financing in the top ten corporate contributors to candidate financing (the other 7 are private Republican donating corporations) Control the money, control the election outcomes.
Don't you find it funny Walker has exempted police and fire from his union-busting? Why police and fire, but not prison guards? Because those are the two unions that contributed to his campaign. It's just political campaign payback.
Except the off-duty police and fire unions are siding with the unions under attack.
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again false. not all of those unions backed walker. Those unions also affect public safety. Teachers do not
And by the way? Many of the Green Bay Packers - union men - are supporting the teachers.
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