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I wonder if Minishaft made the list.

I'm really surprised anyone even responded to that list.

It was lame beyond anything even RHTPG1985 could have done.

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 748985)

The horse he has rated #7 that was foaled in 1715 - that horse didn't debut until age 6 - only ran six times in his career - and half of his six wins came by walkover.

That list is actually a pretty clever troll job in my opinion.

Very tough crop in 1715

Did Buffy have a horse?

The ancient horses get extra credit because they raced at longer distances. As great as Secretariat was, he was unproven at four miles.

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 748981)

And Point Given is where on the list? I won't give you a hard time about Zenyatta being 11, because I think even you know how silly it is.

I have Point Given at #48

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 748991)

I wonder if Minishaft made the list.

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 748972)

You'd have a better shot of defending Ted Bundy than that list.

I can defend the list pretty easily, whether you choose to accept my positions is another matter. As I stated in my original post...ranking horses is a subjective venture whether for HOY or all time.

for a $2 win bet

1. Power to Geaux paid $2,922 for a $2 win bet
2. Wishing Ring paid $1,885.50
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14,100,427,020,880 Zenyatta paid $7 in the '09 Classic around the same amount she paid in her debut

Is it possible to get 21-100?

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 749003)

I have Point Given at #48

What is the basis for Point Given being so much lower on the list than Holy Bull?

I've got Joe the Dude at 115 with a bullet

who is the best fla bred, ny bred, pa bred ..

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 749022)

who is the best fla bred, ny bred, pa bred ..

Silver Charm
Funny Cide tied with Zippy Chippy
Storm Cat

Bucks Boy best Illinois bred?

I have no idea
but it is easy to criticize my list ;)

best Maryland bred

Cigar?

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 749022)

who is the best fla bred, ny bred, pa bred ..

Florida- Dr Fager
NY- Komodo
PA- Go For Wand

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 749025)

Silver Charm
Funny Cide tied with Zippy Chippy
Storm Cat

Bucks Boy best Illinois bred?

I have no idea
but it is easy to criticize my list ;)

I would have to rank Skip Away over Silver Charm
Smarty Jones was a better racehorse than Storm Cat
Bucks Boy maybe the best IL bred

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 748953)

I just hope you didnt spend too much effort on this this list.

Zenyatta at 11 basically defends all opinions.

She is the only horse on that list born after 1976, yet you could probably make a list of 100 horses since then 1976 that were better than her. Including Blame, who just beat her a couple months ago.

Zenyatta is better than Easy Goer? Cigar? Ghostzapper? Point Given?

How about just the females since 1976. Go For Wand and Open Mind would have eaten her for lunch. Lady's Secret, Princess Rooney, Winning Colors, Genuine Risk, Silverbulletday, Life's Magic, Heavenly Prize, Serena's Song, Personal Ensign, Bayakoa, Paseana, Inside Information, Azeri....

I wont include Rachel for obvious reasons but the female horses I listed above were just as good or better than Zenyatta since 1976.

Now just think if I listed male horses.

I have a really hard time ranking Z and Im one of her biggest fans, literally biggest. Just talking recent horses, Im not sure Z could have beat Point Given, Bernardini, Ghostzapper, Candy Ride, Congaree, Eskendereya and even Comentator when he was really good.

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 749028)

Florida- Dr Fager
NY- Komodo
PA- Go For Wand

I guess I would now rank Dr Fager over Skip Away