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Princess Doreen 01-26-2011 05:39 PM

Zenyatta to Bernardini = ZENFANDINI

It sounds a bit Kendall-Jackson. but, it lingers nice on the palate.

Cannon Shell 01-26-2011 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 746202)
I would think the bidding on a good looking Bernardini Zenyatta colt starts at 3mil and if the Sheik elects to own it is a world record. Especially if the next few crops of Bernardini's are as or more successful then this group. I cant image not selling a colt nor can I imagine Team Moss ever selling a filly. How do you not take a shot at 10 plus mil on a colt that is 18 months old?

Who knows? Moss is an old dude with a lot of money.

freddymo 01-26-2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 746206)
Zenyatta to Bernardini = ZENFANDINI

It sounds a bit Kendall-Jackson. but, it lingers nice on the palate.

How about

thegr8fraudini

VOL JACK 01-26-2011 06:47 PM

I like BLAMEVASOR for the foals name.

OldDog 01-26-2011 06:50 PM

Any thoughts as to why they didn't go with A.P. Indy? Why might Bernardini be a better match?

Betsy 01-26-2011 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 746229)
Any thoughts as to why they didn't go with A.P. Indy? Why might Bernardini be a better match?


I still think it's because Bernardini is passing along speed to his offspring, but then again he is a risk as a young sire who hasn't proven it over a period of time. Indy is aging (didn't have a great year this year) and his fertility is down...........I also read that Zenyatta's half by Bernardini is very well regarded, so that could have something to do with it.

AeWingnut 01-26-2011 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 746225)
I like BLAMEVASOR for the foals name.

:tro:

The Indomitable DrugS 01-26-2011 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 746225)
I like BLAMEVASOR for the foals name.

Sounds better than Lame Insor I suppose.

miraja2 01-26-2011 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 746225)
I like BLAMEVASOR for the foals name.

Many :tro:s

eajinabi 01-26-2011 08:52 PM

Why not breed her to Blame. At least she will be in front this time.

Princess Doreen 01-26-2011 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 746229)
Any thoughts as to why they didn't go with A.P. Indy? Why might Bernardini be a better match?

A P Indy is supposedly falling off in fertility, and Bernardini is an A P Indy son?!~

letswastemoney 01-26-2011 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi (Post 746252)
Why not breed her to Blame. At least she will be in front this time.

But Blame will come out on top still...

Merlinsky 01-27-2011 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 746191)
Do you think that Three Chimneys or whomever runs Dynaformer's career would decline breeding to Zenyatta? Maybe, but call me skeptical.

Dynaformer's a piece of work. They probably have a number of reasons for trying to avoid maiden mares, but his temperament combined with Zenyatta's size? I think they'd absolutely think twice about allowing it. What if he hurt her? What if he got hurt because of something she did? It's unnecessary drama. I'm sure they have an idea about his fertility, and if it's reasonably strong and he's in good health, it's worth suggesting they come back next year (if they plan to go at all).

I doubt Dynaformer was even their first pick anyway. They went to a promising stallion with a good female family, a nice conformation, and a nice cross with her dam already. Makes sense. I'm skeptical that we'd see a Zenyatta yearling go through the sale. Not that they'd never part with a colt, but she's their queen, and they're not exactly poor. I'm sure Darley would make them a generous offer in the future if they liked what came out of this mating.

Antitrust32 01-27-2011 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 746225)
I like BLAMEVASOR for the foals name.

:tro::tro:

Thoroughbred Fan 01-27-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 746282)
Dynaformer's a piece of work. They probably have a number of reasons for trying to avoid maiden mares, but his temperament combined with Zenyatta's size? I think they'd absolutely think twice about allowing it. What if he hurt her? What if he got hurt because of something she did? It's unnecessary drama. I'm sure they have an idea about his fertility, and if it's reasonably strong and he's in good health, it's worth suggesting they come back next year (if they plan to go at all).

I doubt Dynaformer was even their first pick anyway. They went to a promising stallion with a good female family, a nice conformation, and a nice cross with her dam already. Makes sense. I'm skeptical that we'd see a Zenyatta yearling go through the sale. Not that they'd never part with a colt, but she's their queen, and they're not exactly poor. I'm sure Darley would make them a generous offer in the future if they liked what came out of this mating.

The real reason they don't take many maidens to Dynaformer is that he gets large foals. Large foals are very tough on maidens. Small, previously unused hole + large foal = holy shiit on foaling day. No one would subject a mare this valuable to the increased risk of damage or death to her or the foal.

Gate Dancer 01-27-2011 10:08 AM

I think an Invasor-Anabaa's Creation foal would beat the Bernardini-Zenyatta foal by about 6 lengths.................

slotdirt 01-27-2011 11:48 AM

More :tro:'s than I can post for Blamevasor.

slotdirt 01-27-2011 11:49 AM

By the by, and I'm completely not following this, but has anybody decided where Rachel is going? I say this because A., I'm curious, and B., it wouldn't be a Zenyatta thread if someone didn't mention her name.

slotdirt 01-27-2011 12:04 PM

Yeah, about eight seconds after I posted that, Curlin came to mind. So really I just wanted to get Curlin and RAchel in a thread on Zenyatta.


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