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randallscott35

12-07-2010 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 731450)

You're going from an already draconian level - to a little higher level.

Detrimental move? Maybe not in the extreme short-term - but in the long term, yes.

I believe in the early 20th century takeout was around 10% or less.

NTamm1215

12-07-2010 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 731450)

You're going from an already draconian level - to a little higher level.

Detrimental move? Maybe not in the extreme short-term - but in the long term, yes.

It's sort of a two-fold issue. SA has enough helping them externally to have a good meet (dirt and everything that comes with it). That's why my opinion is what it is regarding SA itself.

However, once Hollywood rolls around it becomes a problem. The only thing worse than betting on a series of 5-7 horse fields with huge favorites and a 20.68% take would be doing the same thing with a 22.68% take.

This doesn't really change the accuracy of the opinion that decreased takeout will drive up business or increase stability.

The Indomitable DrugS

12-07-2010 01:15 PM

This has been a Riot like performance from you in this thread NTamm.

You have dropped too many big words for it to be a Nascar like effort.

hoovesupsideyourhead

12-07-2010 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 731437)

Wait, so which is it?

I would never argue that supporting a bad product is a good idea, especially when you think the price is too high. However, my point from the beginning has been that, dirt plus increased purses based on increased handle is going to lead to increased interest.

SA could have tried to run on a broken track, had a few cancellations, continued to watch their handle slide as it has at the last God knows how many synth meets. Or they could have switched to dirt, been able to bring back some barns that left or bring in some that are new and develop a better product. They chose the latter. I think they made the right call.

I agree with you.it may get some intrest from some of the big stables. im not sure how t.a.p did when they had a string out west but when you have that big a stable he may entertain another try.

NTamm1215

12-07-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 731481)

This has been a Riot like performance from you in this thread NTamm.

You have dropped too many big words for it to be a Nascar like effort.

I'd like to think I'm being a tad more rational.

Indian Charlie

12-07-2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 731497)

I'd like to think I'm being a tard more rational.

FTFY

:)

TitanSooner

12-07-2010 04:36 PM

yes

SOREHOOF

12-07-2010 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 731342)

will you play it ?

I'm gonna play the crap out of it. There's going to be opportunity while everyone figures it out. This was one of my favorite tracks pre-poly. Take-out only matters when you win!

2MinsToPost

12-10-2010 08:03 PM

what is exchange wagering?

Indian Charlie

12-11-2010 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost (Post 732585)

what is exchange wagering?

It's when PG1985 makes a wager. He exchanges his money for nothing in return.

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