Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 723799)

Not to mention being wired twice by 2 horses who would be called good, AT BEST. Funny Z never got wired. Pace was against her many times, lone speed and everything, she always ran them down.

Originally Posted by sammy (Post 723772)

too bad blame got his ass kicked by haynesfield.

then he would be HOTY.

but i'm sure you have some reasonable excuse for that piss poor showing.

Originally Posted by sammy (Post 723826)

are all of you nuts? a nose does not equal open lenghts. go back to bed.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 723811)

I know you understand the difference between a speed horse getting loose on dirt and on synthetics.

That is precisely the reason why many people argued that Zenyatta's ability to overcome negative pace setups would not be nearly as strong on dirt and would lead to her having lost a couple of the races she pulled out.

Why we're arguing about what they did in 2009 with regards to HOTY is beyond me.

Originally Posted by sammy (Post 723840)

thats it. i am issuing a throwdown.

i challenge you to a handicap-off.

loser leaves the derby-trail forever.

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 723842)

You might be on your way out anyway....
Advice I have been given, scale it back just a bit.

Originally Posted by sammy (Post 723855)

you will notice that in none of my posts did i call anybody a name but i get called a Dumbass and a tard for expressing an opinion and that seems to be Ok.

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 723653)

It's a Player Haters Ball.

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 723644)

I think this is some pretty amusing stuff.

At the 10:25 mark in the most recent episode (11/14) of the Roger Stein Show ... Stein and his two co-hosts cut apart audio of Beyer from NPR and attempt to blast away at him.

http://www.rogerstein.com/radio/archive2.asp


I laughed pretty hard about how Stein thought Zenyatta was back as far as she was because something was wrong with her. Zenyatta actually ran open lengths faster through the early stages of the 2010 BC Classic than she had in any of her prior races over the last two years.

Another fun line from Stein "Here's the thing I'd like Andy Beyer to do finally. Come forward with your tax returns for the last 15 years. Got 10 million - 15 million that you won from the races? We'll listen to you. Our mighty leader we will listen - and whatever you say - it will be gosphel. If you're broke .. Shhhhuuutttt uuppp"

You also have John Hardoon from the Ragozin Sheets on there - now, I understand that he's doing tout work in So. Cal and he's playing to his prospective customers .. but he's actually the one who I get the biggest laugh from of the three. It's only funnier when you consider the numbers he's using have Uncle Mo's Juvenile faster - and Goldikova's Mile considerably faster.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 723966)

How do you figure that Zenyatta ran "open lengths faster in the early stages of the 2010 BC Classic than she has in any of her previous races in the last two years"? When they went into the clubhouse, she was a good 20 lengths back. She ran the half in somewhere between :50 and :51.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 723966)

That's not even close to the fastest she's run in the early stages of her races the last two years. It's actually one of the slowest she's run early in a race

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 723967)

Zenyatta ran her half mile in 49.70 and her six furlongs in 1:13.50

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 723967)

Zenyatta ran her half mile in 49.70 and her six furlongs in 1:13.50



Facepalm.

My pace figures have her running much faster early on in the BC Classic than any race she's run in over the last two years. The Moss pace figures had her running faster early than any race she had run in over the last two years.

Did Ketucky Roses In May steal your login again? Saying "it's actually one of the slowest she's run early in the race" is a weapons grade stupid comment. Show me your pace figures .. point me to races in the last two years where she ran faster on them.