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Thunder Gulch 11-15-2010 11:14 AM

I don't think he would hit the classic board by any stretch, but Mo was the best, easiest winner I can remember, and many had this juvenile field as above average going in.

randallscott35 11-15-2010 11:15 AM

A shame that BoysAT is being overlooked for the race he ran. No it wasn't MO quality but it was a very very good race.

RockHardTen1985 11-15-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 723486)
A shame that BoysAT is being overlooked for the race he ran. No it wasn't MO quality but it was a very very good race.

Why is it a shame? He was second best, what does he deserve? He wont be much next year....

randallscott35 11-15-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 723489)
Why is it a shame? He was second best, what does he deserve? He wont be much next year....

Shame may be the wrong word. All I can say is I thought they both ran great. Obviously MO ran a hole in the wind.

NTamm1215 11-15-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 723490)
Shame may be the wrong word. All I can say is I thought they both ran great. Obviously MO ran a hole in the wind.

I agree, he was born in the wrong year it would seem.

They'll both be cozy in their stalls when the Derby rolls around any way.

RockHardTen1985 11-15-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 723491)
I agree, he was born in the wrong year it would seem.

They'll both be cozy in their stalls when the Derby rolls around any way.


B@T is D'Funnybone all over again.

randallscott35 11-15-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 723492)
B@T is D'Funnybone all over again.

That's just silly.

Sightseek 11-15-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 723492)
B@T is D'Funnybone all over again.

I was just about to say I wouldn't be totally shocked if he tried to roll into the Derby off of the juvie with the way he has been campaigning his stakes horses lately.

RockHardTen1985 11-15-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 723494)
That's just silly.

He was a dream trip Grade 1 winner, and beat a horrible maiden group while running fast first time Dutrow. Expected, right?
Im really not sure what anyone sees in him, but OK Ill stop for now.

randallscott35 11-15-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 723498)
He was a dream trip Grade 1 winner, and beat a horrible maiden group while running fast first time Dutrow. Expected, right?
Im really not sure what anyone sees in him, but OK Ill stop for now.

His first race for Hess was really good too. He has done nothing and I repeat nothing wrong at this point. Let's leave it at that.

RockHardTen1985 11-15-2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 723502)
His first race for Hess was really good too. He has done nothing and I repeat nothing wrong at this point. Let's leave it at that.

The horse who beat him first time out has turned into a total plug. I feel bad for Howard, because he was really high on that horse. Talked him up multiple times on the AM Saratoga shows.

randallscott35 11-15-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 723504)
The horse who beat him first time out has turned into a total plug. I feel bad for Howard, because he was really high on that horse. Talked him up multiple times on the AM Saratoga shows.

I didn't realize that running second in a stake for your debut means the horse that beat you needs to be good in order to take anything positive away from it.

NTamm1215 11-15-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 723498)
He was a dream trip Grade 1 winner, and beat a horrible maiden group while running fast first time Dutrow. Expected, right?
Im really not sure what anyone sees in him, but OK Ill stop for now.

You understand that thinking Boys at Tosconova is not good doesn't really work if you think Uncle Mo is some kind of superstar, right?

No matter what you have to say about Boys at Tosconova, he proved to be better than basically every horse in his 2YO crop besides Uncle Mo. Whether he's going to be a legitimate factor next year remains to be seen. I'm inclined to think that there's a reason why he was handled with kid gloves.

RockHardTen1985 11-15-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 723506)
You understand that thinking Boys at Tosconova is not good doesn't really work if you think Uncle Mo is some kind of superstar, right?

No matter what you have to say about Boys at Tosconova, he proved to be better than basically every horse in his 2YO crop besides Uncle Mo. Whether he's going to be a legitimate factor next year remains to be seen. I'm inclined to think that there's a reason why he was handled with kid gloves.


Have I ever said UM is a superstar?

RockHardTen1985 11-15-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 723505)
I didn't realize that running second in a stake for your debut means the horse that beat you needs to be good in order to take anything positive away from it.

I know what it means, but what if that Stakes group WAS IN NO WAY BETTER THEN A SARATOGA OR BELMONT MAIDEN RACE...In this case, I think thats accurate.

NTamm1215 11-15-2010 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 723507)
Have I ever said UM is a superstar?

So he's not? I may not be too high on Uncle Mo's prospects in the Derby but his Juvenile was pretty damn impressive.

RockHardTen1985 11-15-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 723509)
So he's not? I may not be too high on Uncle Mo's prospects in the Derby but his Juvenile was pretty damn impressive.

Im just asking if I said it? I get crazy about horses all the time, Im just curious if I have about UM yet?
I like the Mott better long term, and Pletcher has a nice one that ran second in the Keeneland stakes.

NTamm1215 11-15-2010 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 723511)
Im just asking if I said it? I get crazy about horses all the time, Im just curious if I have about UM yet?
I like the Mott better long term, and Pletcher has a nice one that ran second in the Keeneland stakes.

If you're talking about Santiva then yeah, I agree, he's got great credentials for the undercard turf race on Oaks day.

I can't possibly keep up with what you've said about Uncle Mo or any other horse.

RockHardTen1985 11-15-2010 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 723512)
If you're talking about Santiva then yeah, I agree, he's got great credentials for the undercard turf race on Oaks day.

I can't possibly keep up with what you've said about Uncle Mo or any other horse.

I have said really nothing about UM, I think I said he is OK.

randallscott35 11-15-2010 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 723513)
I have said really nothing about UM, I think I said he is OK.

Ok...Is that like flank steak? What are you watching


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