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miraja2 11-10-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 721505)
Let's compare them. Durkin's Belmont

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4Z49x11smk


Denman's Classic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Et15M6wsPo


IMO one of them sounds like amateur hour.

My favorite comparison would be Denman in this year's classic to Durkin in the '87 classic.

Both races were extremely close races that easily lent themselves to possible fantastic race calls.
I thought Denman did okay.
Durkin hit it out of the park: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8G8AR7TaM

But hey, not everybody can be Tom Durkin. He's the best.

Revidere 11-10-2010 12:08 PM

Would have really loved to hear Durkin call one of those races.

Paraphrased:

And Zenyatta comes roaring off the turn, Blame takes the lead and draws clear. Lookin at Lucky weakening and Zenyatta, Mike Smith aboard attacks on the outside under a left hand whip, they're in the final furlong, Blame digs in, despeartely holding onto the lead, Zenyatta closing with one final acceleration......And Blame does it! If you have any doubt...Blame the winner.

Princess Doreen 11-10-2010 12:38 PM

^^^^ Great - love it!:tro:

slotdirt 11-10-2010 12:48 PM

I do know that Durkin wouldn't have been screaming "Zenyatta" 806 times in the last 1/4 mile if he were calling the race. That alone is enough to make him superior to Denman.

slotdirt 11-10-2010 12:51 PM

Total aside, but talk about a horse who earned respect in defeat - that was Smarty Jones.

Indian Charlie 11-10-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 721535)
Lederman is great, I always enjoyed his calls.

Trevor just sounds to me like this is a job for him and he goes in and puts in his 5 hrs or whatever it may be then goes home. You're never going to get Trevor allowing people to go to his booth to raise money for charity. There's never going to be anything remarkable about one of his calls. Hell, he recycled his own call when Sidney's Candy won the SA Derby this year. Durkin would get lambasted if he used a cheesy line like "Eskendereya carrying the hopes of New York all the way to the Kentucky Derby."

Dude, Dorkin is the king of cheese.

That out of the way now, I don't know why people give a damn about callers.

Personally though, I think Denman in his day was much better than Dorkin ever was. His accuracy in calling the horses and telling you how they were going was something no other caller could touch.

Now though? Not so much.

hockey2315 11-10-2010 01:19 PM

Durkin can convey emotion in his voice in a way that nobody else can - like in the Birdstone call - it's not just pure disappointment like Denman's Blame call. Durkin gotten progressively worse with mispronouncing names and it seems like he's been having some voice problems for a while but, like others have said, his calls are far more interesting to listen to than Denman's 3 or 4 recycled calls.

Crown@club 11-10-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 721579)
Durkin can convey emotion in his voice in a way that nobody else can - like in the Birdstone call - it's not just pure disappointment like Denman's Blame call. Durkin gotten progressively worse with mispronouncing names and it seems like he's been having some voice problems for a while but, like others have said, his calls are far more interesting to listen to than Denman's 3 or 4 recycled calls.

Harry Carey?

hockey2315 11-10-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 721582)
Harry Carey?

Harry Caray?

I know who he was, but have never heard him. . . I was just talking about racing people anyways.

Crown@club 11-10-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 721585)
Harry Caray?

I know who he was, but have never heard him. . . I was just talking about racing people anyways.

I should of said he's turning into Harry Caray. You did say that "Durkin gotten progressively worse with mispronouncing names and it seems like he's been having some voice problems."

Clip-Clop 11-10-2010 01:41 PM

I liked Colmus' calls of the earlier races. Think he does a great job at all his tracks. Not too mention the "wife knows" call from this summer.

randallscott35 11-10-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 721594)
I liked Colmus' calls of the earlier races. Think he does a great job at all his tracks. Not too mention the "wife knows" call from this summer.

Totally agree

art vanderlay 11-10-2010 05:38 PM

Denman said Tuesday from his farm in Minnesota

He has a farm in Minnesota?

Indian Charlie 11-10-2010 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by art vanderlay (Post 721675)
Denman said Tuesday from his farm in Minnesota

He has a farm in Minnesota?

I just read that article. I thought it was a pretty good read. The stuff how he watches the jockeys wrists and the horses ears, that used to really be apparent back in the day. He's the only announcer that you could trust if they reported on how your horse was moving (which always isn't easy to do yourself if the camera work isn't favorable).

the_fat_man 11-10-2010 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Revidere (Post 721544)
Would have really loved to hear Durkin call one of those races.

Yeah. His responsibilities as the newly selected GOUT poster boy are taking time away from his ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRing. :rolleyes:

Not to say the stumbling, bumbling, MUMBLING low-talker, Denman, is any better.

Get an accurate system in place and you can PERMANENTLY replace these IDIOTS with chicklets.

GPK 11-10-2010 07:42 PM

If all race callers could be like Grunder, the world would be a better place.:)

Indian Charlie 11-10-2010 07:46 PM

How about having the jockeys wired up and have them each call their horse, in order of current running position, first to last?

Someone would be in charge of switching the audio from jock to jock and provide each jock with a little electrical shock to get them to say where they are and how they are doing.

PatCummings 11-10-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 721475)
Announcers are all biased, you could hear Durkin's voice rise in excitement when Birdstone ran by Smarty Jones in the Belmont. :rolleyes:

I thought it was hysterical when people said a grandstand never cheered harder for a horse in memory...completely forgetting the Smarty Jones fervor of just six years ago...ugh.

analyizethis 11-10-2010 09:37 PM

Given the time (fall 2001), the place (New York) and the circumstances that years Classic is the best ever. "Tiznow for America"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adFhb...eature=related

Charismatic1 11-10-2010 10:49 PM

It's been awhile since I've posted with you guys (although I have followed several threads recently), but I must support my fellow Durkin Dorks. Sure, on a daily basis he's getting increasingly inconsistent, but he is still the best at capturing all the elements of a big race in his calls. If I'm watching a race that has significance for that day, that year, and even years to come, Durkin is unmatched. Sure, not all of them are Legen - wait for it - Dary, but so many are. (That's for any of you HIMYM fans)

I hear many say how they can close their eyes with Trevor's calls. For me, that is fine if I'm listening to the race on the radio or online. However, I always watch the Breeders' Cup and Durkin fits better with the visuals. I figured I would grow to appreciate and like Denman's calls as well, but I have not. I can only think of one BC call from Trevor that really grabbed my attention - the 2007 Classic: "...In the race of the year, for Horse of the Year...". I think it may be one of the factors my joy of the event has diminished the past few years....and I am well aware of how ridiculous and idiotic that is!

When I think of Breeders' Cup history, I consider Durkin a part of those moments. Considering the historic horses and races Denman has had the honor of calling the past 5 Cups, I just can't connect him to any of those moments.


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