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Cannon Shell 10-21-2010 07:21 PM

While not necessarily about the topic, I found something in this weeks SI interesting. In a story about French (and black) soccer player Thiery Henry coming to play in American he made several comments about the lack of racist taunts in American sports

"While attending a Yankees game recently, Henry realized that he has never heard any racist taunts from US fans. In 2005 he founded Stand Up, Speak UP, a campaign that encouraged European soccer players and fans to oppose racist behavior-which is all too common on the Continent, whether its throwing bananas at black athletes or leading slur filled chants. Henry himself was the subject of a shocking slur in '04, when Spain coach Luis Arangones, imploring one of his defenders to play henry aggressively, was overheard referring to Henry as a "black s---"..."I can understand why people in America are kind of shocked because that doesn't happen in their sports. In Europe it's quite often, unfortunately, but now i think its getting better""

Riot 10-21-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 709652)
He butchered many people, honey. You really gunna dispute that? You're smarter than that.

No, sweetie, I'm only smarter than you.

Riot 10-21-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 709674)
That definition fits Riot like a glove

Not hardly, Chuck Simon.

Cannon Shell 10-21-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709682)
Not hardly, Chuck Simon.

C'mon you are as rigid in your views as anyone, nascar included.

Riot 10-21-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 709670)
If you listen to the comments in the context of the conversation its painfully obvious that he isnt condemning anyone. He was simply expressing the fear he personally felt. You are projecting on his words. Expressing his own honestly felt feelings is candor.

You want the world to be so black and white, politically correct that you can't see the difference between a guy expressing his own personal fears and a blanket condemnation. The fact is that everyone of us knows that if a suspect looking person wearing muslim clothing gets on a plane with us, the thought crosses our minds. You may not admit it but you know it is true. Doesn't make you a bigot or racist or anything of the sort. It simply makes you human.

Wow. Speak for your own mind.

Cannon Shell 10-21-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709684)
Wow. Speak for your own mind.

I know and if your car broke down in the barrio or ghetto you would feel totally safe because evil conservatives only make up stereotypes about those kind of places and the people who live there.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-21-2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709681)
No, sweetie, I'm only smarter than you.


Well, you're factually wrong as can be about this......I repeat...He butchered many people. This is what you do when you want people to ignore something that's a fact. You sort of challenge it, and then you get off on a tangent. You do it. GB does it, and Wannabe God does it. Why don't we stay on whether he butchered a lot of people. You questioned it's accuracy. I'll bring the info in. The facts involved are easy to bring forth.

Danzig 10-21-2010 08:17 PM

supposedly people want dialogue, an ability to talk about thoughts and feelings. evidently that's not really the case. why are some granted free speech, but others aren't? we know those dipshits from their 'church' have the right to protest at a serviceman's funeral...but someone can't say they feel a bit of a chill when they see muslims? a visceral reaction is one thing, the subsequent behavior is another. if williams admits feeling that way, what's wrong with it? did he react based on it? or was he trying to show that people do have feelings that might not always make sense, might not be 'correct', but are real all the same? i doubt his remarks meant anything other than him admitting to having experienced the occurrence. did he recommend actions based on that feeling?
that said, i always wonder why people say things that they most likely know will cause something like this.

Danzig 10-21-2010 08:39 PM

and, from slate, more to the story (doesn't it seem like there's always more then the initial story to the story??):


http://www.slate.com/id/2271931/

SCUDSBROTHER 10-21-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 709696)
supposedly people want dialogue, an ability to talk about thoughts and feelings. evidently that's not really the case. why are some granted free speech, but others aren't? we know those dipshits from their 'church' have the right to protest at a serviceman's funeral...but someone can't say they feel a bit of a chill when they see muslims? a visceral reaction is one thing, the subsequent behavior is another. if williams admits feeling that way, what's wrong with it? did he react based on it? or was he trying to show that people do have feelings that might not always make sense, might not be 'correct', but are real all the same? i doubt his remarks meant anything other than him admitting to having experienced the occurrence. did he recommend actions based on that feeling?
that said, i always wonder why people say things that they most likely know will cause something like this.

He told everyone why he said it. Said it because he believes Political Correctness can lead to us not addressing reality. Said we can't "get away from these facts that we are faced with."

Rupert Pupkin 10-22-2010 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 709685)
I know and if your car broke down in the barrio or ghetto you would feel totally safe because evil conservatives only make up stereotypes about those kind of places and the people who live there.

If Riot was walking down a dark street at midnight, she would have the exact same reaction whether an 80 year old lady was approaching her or whether a young man in baggy pants was approaching her. Riot is a robot when it comes to that kind of stuff. Riot is far more evolved than any of us. Shame on all of you who would fear the young punk in baggy clothes more than the 80 year old lady. You are all bigots.

joeydb 10-22-2010 07:03 AM

Senator Jim DeMint promises to introduce legislation to bar public funding of NPR. So, at least the taxpayer-fueled subsidizing of this left wing madness will cease.

Of course Mr. Soros is free to use as much of his own money to prop up NPR as he likes. I hope it works out for him as well as it did with Air America. :rolleyes:

Antitrust32 10-22-2010 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709636)
How about the Democrats? Do you judge any of that by the actions of a few? How about blacks? Jews? Gays? Women? Catholics?

nice deflection. you are the worlds best at those.

Antitrust32 10-22-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 709637)
They follow the teachings of a butcher, and glorify him. That's a fact. Dispute it? You can't. He was a butcher, and they follow his teachings, and glorify him. If it scares Juan, then they get that B word out (like it's their brush, or comb.) One definition of Bigot is: A person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race. That definition fits Liberals a lot better than it fits the relatively moderate Juan Williams.

:tro:

Antitrust32 10-22-2010 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 709641)
Reading Riot's gibberish is enough to turn me into a conservative...almost.

lol :tro:

Antitrust32 10-22-2010 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 709652)
He butchered many people, honey. You really gunna dispute that? You're smarter than that.

omg hahahah

Antitrust32 10-22-2010 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 709781)
If Riot was walking down a dark street at midnight, she would have the exact same reaction whether an 80 year old lady was approaching her or whether a young man in baggy pants was approaching her. Riot is a robot when it comes to that kind of stuff. Riot is far more evolved than any of us. Shame on all of you who would fear the young punk in baggy clothes more than the 80 year old lady. You are all bigots.

:tro::tro:

this is a great thread

Princess Doreen 10-22-2010 08:10 AM

Getting on an airplane anymore makes me nervous... period.

geeker2 10-22-2010 08:15 AM

^^^^^

Bigot







:p

Riot 10-22-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 709781)
If Riot was walking down a dark street at midnight, she would have the exact same reaction whether an 80 year old lady was approaching her or whether a young man in baggy pants was approaching her. Riot is a robot when it comes to that kind of stuff. Riot is far more evolved than any of us. Shame on all of you who would fear the young punk in baggy clothes more than the 80 year old lady. You are all bigots.

Well, no, but you go right ahead making yourself look silly ;)


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