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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 678396)

How wonderful healthcare reform has changed that.

LOL -- yeah, we're all going to have "equal access". It will be equal access to nothing, unless you're one of the self-proclaimed "elites" who handed down this socialist mess with no intention of participating in it.

You didn't see Ted Kennedy waiting in line at the local clinic, and you won't see any other of his ilk doing it either. Socialism is for the people, not for the socialist.

America better wake up and repeal this as soon as is practical -- at the latest on January 20, 2013.

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 678417)

I think I saw Ted Kennedy in line at KFC last night!!

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Originally Posted by notyep59 (Post 678419)

I think I saw Ted Kennedy in line at KFC last night!!

Broad St.?

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 678257)

I guess it depends on what exactly you mean by "earned."
I mean....David Rockefeller and Ronald Perelman are on the list and they had pretty much "earned" their money once they successfully made it out of the womb.

so? whats the point? Their families still earned it.

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 678311)

Actually, no, that would clearly be you and Dell being the freaking morons.

I agree completely with what Timm said. Never said or implied anything differently.

yeah okay stupid bitch.

Ah, the Trail overflowing with love once again

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 678268)

Money is overrated.

:wf

i think any time people give money to a cause it's a nice gesture.

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 678432)

so? whats the point? Their families still earned it.

The point was simply that Timm's statement that they had "earned" their money wasn't entirely true in all cases, or - at the very least - true only if a loose definition of the word "earned" was used.
It had nothing to do with their decision to donate the money, which is why I only quoted one sentence of his post (the sentence to which I was responding).

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 678516)

well you would be correct sir :D

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 678417)

Or not:

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The new health care law has significantly improved the prognosis for Medicare, extending the life of its trust fund by 12 years until 2029, and thereby delaying any need for dramatic changes in benefits or revenues, according to a new report.

The annual check-up from government actuaries overseeing the nation's two central safety-net programs also found that Social Security continues to be much less of a problem than Medicare, and will remain in strong financial shape at least through 2037.

"The financial outlook for the Medicare program is substantially improved as a result of the far-reaching changes in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act," concludes the Medicare report -- although the trustees warned that the improvements depend on the successful implementation of the law.

Where is the source for that?

thinair.com?

That piece was all over the place on internet news sites in the last couple of days. Yahoonews, for example.

Yeah.

I guess being a government actuary is akin to riding the pine in single A baseball as a relief pitcher for the last 15 years.

So I'll take their numbers with a grain of salt.

can you believe what is said when the statement includes the words 'trust fund'? isn't it a fact that all revenues go to the general fund?

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 679338)

can you believe what is said when the statement includes the words 'trust fund'? isn't it a fact that all revenues go to the general fund?

:zz: There is a medicare trust fund - check out medicare.gov, Wikipedia, etc.

The report in question has been heavily reported in the general news lately:

CNN Money
"Medicare gets lifeline from health care reform"
http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/05/news...ency_extended/

Reuters
"Health overhaul helps Medicare prospects: report"
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6750BR20100806

MediPage Today
"Healthcare Reform Law Will Extend Life of Medicare Trust Fund"
http://www.medpagetoday.com/PublicHe...Medicare/21553

so then i guess just social security goes to the general fund? i hear about these funds, but then other pols say it all goes in one pot, which is why i asked.