Yeah ... I assumed he was retired ... hard to believe that a well bred son of Storm Cat that won two Classics and was 2nd in the BC Classic would be brought back at all at age 4.

Munnings has a major issue somewhere that they're missing ... he ran a 30 Beyer at CD on Derby day and stopped like he was shot well before the stretch while having inside position just off of a 25 and 50 pace today. I'm not sure he'd win a 5K claimer off the basis of those races. If he doesn't have a big issue ... he's sour as hell. I don't think he was run into the ground.

Yeah, as far as Munnings go, it was a bad example. I was really only referring to his last couple of races as the type of meltdown that a more heavily campaigned horse might suffer after a long season.

I can't really think of any off the top of my head, but a decent Lukas example would be that Robert Lewis horse he buried on the Triple Crown trail a couple of years ago, I think the name was Going Wild, going from a 6f maiden at Santa Anita in December all the way to the Wood Memorial (he might have even run in the Lexington or Derby) with a race somewhere every 2-3 weeks.

Yeah - Going Wild was the Sham Stakes winner when Giacomo had that wide trip - I think he may have been a slight post time favorite over Bellamy Road in the Wood Memorial ... where he was beaten a mile.

I just Googled him and he actually won a trio of stakes in New Mexico after Lukas had him.

Scrimshaw was brutally handled by Lukas. He beat Ghostzapper on opening day at SA in that real fast alw race ... won the Lexington off the layoff and injury .. and than he was soundly beat in all 3 triple crown events.

Yeah - YIT was kind of a Munnings like situation - but they let it go on for four races instead of 2. YIT went from being a freaky 3yo sprinter to a horse who couldn't beat 5k claimers. His King's Bishop was like Munnings Carter.

I was actually in the stands for that race. Eye Of The Tiger, the eventual Derby 5th place finisher (at about 80-1) ran 3rd coming down from Golden Gate.