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RockHardTen1985

06-19-2010 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaining Ground (Post 659582)

he was also huge and had trouble in the gate because he was so big. but you are right, he had serious breathing issues. you clearly have followed the sport for many years and have seen some good ones. was midnight lute one of, if not the best sprinters ever?

I think just on raw talent, your not NEARLY GIVING HIM ENOUGH CREDIT. As talented as anyone the last 10 years, not saying he is the best, but just as talented as anyone.

Indian Charlie

06-19-2010 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaining Ground (Post 659582)

lol

don't get me wrong, i really like ML a lot and think on his day he was really tough, but beating a horse like Phone Trick? No.

I think he probably was the best sprinter on that list however. Maybe KG, maybe him.

Gaining Ground

06-19-2010 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 659584)

I think just on raw talent, your not NEARLY GIVING HIM ENOUGH CREDIT. As talented as anyone the last 10 years, not saying he is the best, but just as talented as anyone.

you went from maybe one of the best ever to as talented as anyone in the last 10 years. i can probably agree with that. its really hard to tell just how good he might have been. but based on what he did on the track, he doesnt belong on any all time lists.

Indian Charlie

06-19-2010 01:34 AM

I think Precisionist in the mile race, provided he was given free reign, would have fared well.

Does anyone remember those meetings between Precisionist and Greinton in 1985, from the Strub through those HP summer races.

Best six month rivalry evah!

RockHardTen1985

06-19-2010 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaining Ground (Post 659587)

Do you sleep?

Bigsmc

06-19-2010 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 659573)

Any race ML would be in vs a group of "the best ever" would set up for his style, I have no doubt in my mind he would be competitive with all of these.

That is a huge backpedal from "may be the best ever". Now he's "competitive".

Bigsmc

06-19-2010 05:44 AM

9/1,2,7/3,4

DaTruth

06-19-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 659588)

It was too bad that Precisionist didn't fire in the following year's Big Cap when Greinton ran down the Franks/JVB longshot Herat. Precisionist did get his revenge a few weeks later in the San Bernadino.

hoovesupsideyourhead

06-19-2010 10:17 AM

'the bid' would be looking at g zappers ass...

Indian Charlie

06-19-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 659656)

'the bid' would be looking at g zappers ass...

That would depend on the the order in which they went out for the post parade.

Cannon Shell

06-19-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 659583)

Good point. A bit before my time, but didn't Groovy run some out-of-this world speed figs?

Back to back 132/133 beyers
But he was an absolute need the lead type.
Survived an insane Derby try and like 23 different trainers.

hoovesupsideyourhead

06-19-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 659659)

That would depend on the the order in which they went out for the post parade.

not really during the race ..did the bid ever blow a 128 at belmont? nuff said

MISTERGEE

06-20-2010 04:07 PM

mentioning these great sprinters made me think of Eillo. Last ran in 1984. Won 12 of 17 and from memory probably had some monster #'s

docicu3

06-20-2010 06:30 PM

I thought this thread was about the TVG folks yesterday apparently posting P3 tickets for Monmouth that didn't exist as a bet offered.

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