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Antitrust32 06-14-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 657888)
It's not the race, it's the star power, the mystique, and the thrill of the streak.

nobody cares about that except horse racing fans. thats why we have HRTV and TVG. I imagine it was covered on one of those networks.

Danzig 06-14-2010 05:44 PM

If Zenyatta skips Del Mar, she could be sent to the East Coast, although Shirreffs seemed cool to that idea on Monday.

"How many times do you really want to cross the country," he said.



now, that's funny. she hasn't crossed the country yet!

slotdirt 06-14-2010 06:15 PM

What are you talking about? Arkansas has beautiful beaches.

PeteMugg 06-14-2010 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 657919)
If Zenyatta skips Del Mar, she could be sent to the East Coast, although Shirreffs seemed cool to that idea on Monday.

"How many times do you really want to cross the country," he said.



now, that's funny. she hasn't crossed the country yet!

Obviously you can't make Zenyatta face the boys or race on real dirt. But Rachel looks to be back near top form, I'm sure fans of both would love to see RA go west. RA has no streak on the line, nothing to lose by facing Z on her own terms. I say step up and make something happen. I'm a fan of both, but I think Rachel would win if they met at Del Mar.

Danzig 06-14-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteMugg (Post 657924)
Obviously you can't make Zenyatta face the boys or race on real dirt. But Rachel looks to be back near top form, I'm sure fans of both would love to see RA go west. RA has no streak on the line, nothing to lose by facing Z on her own terms. I say step up and make something happen. I'm a fan of both, but I think Rachel would win if they met at Del Mar.

yeah, that's not gonna happen. no way jess jackson made so much about not running on poly in the bc but will go ahead and do that now.

Danzig 06-14-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 657923)
What are you talking about? Arkansas has beautiful beaches.

as nice as kentuckys?! :D

PeteMugg 06-14-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 657928)
yeah, that's not gonna happen. no way jess jackson made so much about not running on poly in the bc but will go ahead and do that now.

But that was after such a taxing campaign. Sometimes sport is just about being the bigger man and stepping up. The RA camp has the chance to say OK we're giving you every advantage and we're still gonna kick you ass.

NTamm1215 06-14-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteMugg (Post 657937)
But that was after such a taxing campaign. Sometimes sport is just about being the bigger man and stepping up. The RA camp has the chance to say OK we're giving you every advantage and we're still gonna kick you ass.

And Zenyatta's connections don't have the same chance?

NT

kgar311 06-14-2010 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteMugg (Post 657924)
Obviously you can't make Zenyatta face the boys or race on real dirt. But Rachel looks to be back near top form, I'm sure fans of both would love to see RA go west. RA has no streak on the line, nothing to lose by facing Z on her own terms. I say step up and make something happen. I'm a fan of both, but I think Rachel would win if they met at Del Mar.

You know what??? phuck it at this point. The Mosses are pussie, they are not coming across country, not even for the Classic. You're right Jackson really has nothing to lose at this point with Rachel. I say point Rachel towards the Pacific Classic, call Zenyatta out and take her out on her own track. And while shes at it take out all the top males on the used rubbers also. If she gets beat so what, its not her preferred surface and they can goat Zen to come to the Breeders cup and settle it once and for all on a conventional dirt surface in the Breeders cup, either it be the Classic or the distaff. This really isnt a half bad idea

PeteMugg 06-14-2010 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 657939)
And Zenyatta's connections don't have the same chance?

NT



Yes they do, but they seem to be the ones ducking. So step up and play their game. Would they have the nerve to duck in their own backyard?

PeteMugg 06-14-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311 (Post 657945)
You know what??? phuck it at this point. The Mosses are pussie, they are not coming across country, not even for the Classic. You're right Jackson really has nothing to lose at this point with Rachel. I say point Rachel towards the Pacific Classic, call Zenyatta out and take her out on her own track. And while shes at it take out all the top males on the used rubbers also. If she gets beat so what, its not her preferred surface and they can goat Zen to come to the Breeders cup and settle it once and for all on a conventional dirt surface in the Breeders cup, either it be the Classic or the distaff. This really isnt a half bad idea

EXACTLY :tro:

Coach Pants 06-14-2010 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteMugg (Post 657946)
Yes they do, but they seem to be the ones ducking. So step up and play their game. Would they have the nerve to duck in their own backyard?

Yes.

PeteMugg 06-14-2010 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 657949)
Yes.

You're right, of course. But seeing them turn tail and run might be better than beating them on the track.

Coach Pants 06-14-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteMugg (Post 657951)
You're right, of course. But seeing them turn tail and run might be better than beating them on the track.

I just want to see them get hit with a pie.

kgar311 06-14-2010 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteMugg (Post 657951)
You're right, of course. But seeing them turn tail and run might be better than beating them on the track.

:tro::tro::tro::tro:X100000000000

said I could only put 4 trophies up, but YES that would really shut the Zen backers up.

TitanSooner 06-14-2010 07:52 PM

you folks crack me up how emotional you get about this stuff..

PeteMugg 06-14-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner (Post 657970)
you folks crack me up how emotional you get about this stuff..

Who's getting emotional? I'm just sick of this sport shooting itself in the foot.

Remember Alydar and Affirmed? Remember Easy Goer and Sunday Silence?

Remember that time Rachel and Zenyatta ran on the same weekend? It was a day apart and they were about half a country from each other. But man was that some classic stuff.

dagolfer33 06-14-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteMugg (Post 657946)
Yes they do, but they seem to be the ones ducking. So step up and play their game. Would they have the nerve to duck in their own backyard?

Yep, just like they ducked the race in Hot Springs. Now, someone please rebut that statement.

PeteMugg 06-14-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 657978)
Yep, just like they ducked the race in Hot Springs. Now, someone please rebut that statement.

I'm giving camp RA the benefit of the doubt that they weren't quite ready at that point, which is another reason why they should be the ones to step up.

They both seem to be coming into top form now, which is how I'd like to see them square off. So let's go ... next time out.

Danzig 06-14-2010 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 657978)
Yep, just like they ducked the race in Hot Springs. Now, someone please rebut that statement.


they had every reason not to go to that race, and you know it. the horse was clearly not ready at that point. it was wrong of jackson to even make the attempt, to say he'd be there.


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