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Scav 06-09-2010 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 655944)
What the heck is TS.com.... I type it in and get taken to a transexual dating site.
Twinspires.com

jms62 06-09-2010 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 655946)
Twinspires.com
Thanks... Is it a public syndicate?

ndjake 06-09-2010 02:49 PM
I think the ts.com chances of a profit come down to hitting that single in the last so that they would have it twice plus numerous 5 of 6 consos.

Scav 06-09-2010 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 655948)
Thanks... Is it a public syndicate?
i guess you can call it that...they got lucky today on that horse...

jms62 06-09-2010 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 655953)
i guess you can call it that...they got lucky today on that horse...
We need a miracle in the 9th.

Cannon Shell 06-09-2010 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 655889)
matt , the major syndicate $$$ would have been in on sunday , if you don't think it wouldn't have been in you are dead wrong

the little guy who could only played on sunday got screwed if he is working today and can't get down a play
If you can't get a play down with this much lead in time you are too stupid to play the pick 6. A guy in prison could get down nowdays.

docicu3 06-09-2010 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ndjake (Post 655931)
Tom,

Here are the TS.com tickets. Tickets 1 and 2 still alive thru 3 legs all others dead.

Ticket Number 1
$2 Pick-6
# 1,2,3,4,6,7 : #4 Horse Paid $5.20 to WIN
# 1,3,4,5,6,7 : #3 Horse Paid $44.00 to WIN
# 2,3,6,7,,8,9,10
# 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
# 1,2,3,4,5
# 12
$20,160.00

Ticket Number 2
$2 Pick-6
# 1,3,4 : #4 Horse Paid $5.20 to WIN
# 1,3,4,5,6,7 : #3 Horse Paid $44.00 to WIN
# 2,3,6,7,10
# 2,3,4,5,6,7
# 1,2,3,4,5,
# 1,3,5,9,11,12
$32,400.00
So the crazy #4 horse in the nightcap along with the #6 and #9 still possibly make this carry?

Cannon Shell 06-09-2010 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 655910)
the main point of the thread was the track being closed on a sunday and the customer that plays on sunday getting shut out and having to go to another product (monmouth)

the guy that plays sat and sun only , got shut out for 1 day , whether he plays win , place , show , ex's tri's dd's or picks , he is a customer and got shut out

to think that the syndicates who make up the majority of the $4mm in the pick 6 pool wouldn't have been in on sunday is downright ludicrous
To think that people HAVE to bet on a NYRA dark Sunday is ludicrous. There is so much access and so many outlets to bet on daily that thinking missing one Sunday is a tragic occurence means that you are either needing to check yourself in for some help or listening to really bad opinions on industry topics or both. Please give up this pointless crusade.

ndjake 06-09-2010 03:21 PM
So much for ts.com not making a profit, the payoffs are way higher than I anticipated. Looks like they make between 300-900K pretax unless the 4 or 6 hit for the carryover worse the 9

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-09-2010 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ndjake (Post 655972)
So much for ts.com not making a profit, the payoffs are way higher than I anticipated. Looks like they make between 300-900K pretax unless the 4 or 6 hit for the carryover.
channing hill is gonna fall off the 12 out of the gate.
the 9 will bump the 11 and the 6 will take out the 5

4 rolls..:zz:

Scav 06-09-2010 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ndjake (Post 655972)
So much for ts.com not making a profit, the payoffs are way higher than I anticipated. Looks like they make between 300-900K pretax unless the 4 or 6 hit for the carryover.
Well, I look at it the other way, they spent a **** load of money (60k) to be alive to essentially a 10/1. I get the the large quantity of money, and I wouldn't throw it away, but there are people that spent $400-$800 that are alive right now.

Give 25% of the people on this board 60k and they would be alive also. They just got lucky getting a Gyarmanti jump up

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-09-2010 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 655974)
Well, I look at it the other way, they spent a **** load of money (60k) to be alive to essentially a 10/1. I get the the large quantity of money, and I wouldn't throw it away, but there are people that spent $400-$800 that are alive right now.

Give 25% of the people on this board 60k and they would be alive also. They just got lucky getting a Gyarmanti jump up
and da tax..how would that work ..everyone gets a w-2? and for how much..per your involvment percentage..

knickslions2 06-09-2010 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 655973)
channing hill is gonna fall off the 12 out of the gate.
the 9 will bump the 11 and the 6 will take out the 5

4 rolls..:zz:
4 all the way baby

ndjake 06-09-2010 03:28 PM
I agree with you totally, I was just surprised that the payoffs were so large with only the one longshot in the mix as you wouldnt have had to spread very wide in the other races to most likely have the winners.

Scav 06-09-2010 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 655976)
and da tax..how would that work ..everyone gets a w-2? and for how much..per your involvment percentage..
They all get a w-2, TS.com fills out this specific form on it. I'll find out what it is called, I can't remember but i looked it up before. Partnership tax form or something

gales0678 06-09-2010 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 655966)
To think that people HAVE to bet on a NYRA dark Sunday is ludicrous. There is so much access and so many outlets to bet on daily that thinking missing one Sunday is a tragic occurence means that you are either needing to check yourself in for some help or listening to really bad opinions on industry topics or both. Please give up this pointless crusade.
nt wanted an answer that's all chuck i'm done just like the red sox

ndjake 06-09-2010 03:37 PM
They give you a w2-g for your pro rata share of the taxes so even a small guy who only put $10 into the pool would get a net amount after taxes are withheld on his share of the winnings.

3kings 06-09-2010 03:41 PM
Who won the 9th?

mark2061mn 06-09-2010 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 655987)
Who won the 9th?
11

Cannon Shell 06-09-2010 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 655974)
Well, I look at it the other way, they spent a **** load of money (60k) to be alive to essentially a 10/1. I get the the large quantity of money, and I wouldn't throw it away, but there are people that spent $400-$800 that are alive right now.

Give 25% of the people on this board 60k and they would be alive also. They just got lucky getting a Gyarmanti jump up
i would keep 59k and give the rest to PG to invest for me


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