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The Indomitable DrugS 03-28-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Sarcasm?

He was inept.

He's right up there with Alex Hassinger and maybe even Bradshaw.

How was he inept?

From 2000 to 2002 he was 58-for-254 (23% wins) and had a great $2.82 ROI while training on a very tough year round circuit in So Cal.

He was 7 for 21 in Graded Stakes races and won Grade 1 stakes with two different horses.

I think you assume he was inept because you've listed to him talk on TVG.

Kasept 03-28-2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
What have they accomplished? ... other than being the son of a well liked trainer and son of a well liked jockey?

Guys like Jeff Siegal, Kurt Hoover, and John White were HRTV's Shaq, Kobe, and Karl Malone to their Luke Walton.

The worst thing about Laffit and Hazleton is that they're not bad. I like to listen to the guys who work hard and are real good .. and I sometimes like to listen to the ones who are horrible so I can laugh at them.

If you're not going to work hard to be real good .. at least have the courtesy to be terrible.

Don't disagree about the veterans, but it seems the time for a 'next generation' may be here. It kind of calls for undisputed reporting and/or handicapping intellects like Serling and Privman or polished up and comers like Laffit and Hazleton. Andy and Jay, (Brad Free too), stand alone as winning personalities with well-researched, well-reasoned information that flows out of them naturally. Make no mistake about Hazleton and Pincay and their potential as they work very hard and have deep reserves of horsmanship knowledge from which to draw.

The Indomitable DrugS 03-28-2010 06:34 PM

At least Bethenny Frankel is probably a good cook.

Indian Charlie 03-28-2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
How was he inept?

From 2000 to 2002 he was 58-for-254 (23% wins) and had a great $2.82 ROI while training on a very tough year round circuit in So Cal.

He was 7 for 21 in Graded Stakes races and won Grade 1 stakes with two different horses.

I think you assume he was inept because you've listed to him talk on TVG.

How were his stats prior to 2000? What kind of stock was he given?

The Indomitable DrugS 03-28-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
How were his stats prior to 2000? What kind of stock was he given?

1999 was his first year as a trainer ... he was 10-for-48 (20.8% wins)

Obviously he got to start with nice stock ... he was a Bill Mott asst in the 90's and Allen Paulson took care of Bray when he went out on his own to train.

When Paulson died Bray lost his owner - Startac was taken from him just days after winning a Grade 1 stakes. That's when his hair started falling out and he became a brutal tv analyst.

TouchOfGrey 03-29-2010 05:03 AM

This guy would be better.

VOL JACK 03-29-2010 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey

Finally, DrugS found his long lost son.
Late night hook-ups with Fat chicks have a way of coming back to haunt.

Clip-Clop 03-29-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Curt.. Thank you. That's awfully kind.

As I've mentioned before, I think I'm really well suited for what I'm doing currently. Even when I was doing Colgate hockey play-by-play, I never envisioned myself doing TV. The radio show, and its' 15 hours a week, provides a unique chance to grow new player/fan interest and generally promote the game. I like to think a lot of momentum has been built in the three years since the show came my way, and there's a lot more I would like for it to achieve yet. And honestly, there are many more accomplished guys out there than me for it including Andy, Jay Privman, Scott Hazleton and Laffit III and more.

Andy might be a little "blue" for network TV. :D

For most of us listeners/members, you would be perfect, for the ordinary public, maybe a little too astute.

Keep up the great work on the radio, thanks for all you do here as well.

docicu3 03-29-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Don't disagree about the veterans, but it seems the time for a 'next generation' may be here. It kind of calls for undisputed reporting and/or handicapping intellects like Serling and Privman or polished up and comers like Laffit and Hazleton. Andy and Jay, (Brad Free too), stand alone as winning personalities with well-researched, well-reasoned information that flows out of them naturally. Make no mistake about Hazleton and Pincay and their potential as they work very hard and have deep reserves of horsmanship knowledge from which to draw.


Do you have a link to an old Colgate hockey game???......Gotta hear "Kick save and a beauty".......from the one and only!! You must have a tape somewhere....

The Indomitable DrugS 03-29-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Finally, DrugS found his long lost son.
Late night hook-ups with Fat chicks have a way of coming back to haunt.

Please ... that kid is reading straight from the form. The nicest thing I can say about him is that he has A LOT of room for improvement.

When I was real young I used to get on my knees on the carpet and conduct harness races with my two hands.

It sounds impossible ... but believe me .. I could pull off an 8 horse field with just two hands. Your left hand is always the pacer on the lead - your right hand becomes the horse who figures to go first over, but that one doesn't always end up being the first to move.

Luckily, no one ever figured out what the hell I was doing when I was on the carpet harness racing my fingers.

I used to play home run derby with my two hands in class all day. I'd hold my right thumb and right index together - making my right thumbnail the baseball. It would start out about two feet from my left hand.

My left hand would have four fingers down making a fist - but my thumb sticking up in the air acting as the baseball bat.

I'd throw the ball (right thumbnail) and hit it with the bat (left thumb) and depending upon how good it felt on contact I'd know if I hit a home run or not.

Me doing this constantly drove the nun who taught the class absolutely apesh!t. Even more so than when I'd occasionally spit on the floor.

One day, she gets my older brother out of his class and brings him in our classroom. I'm still oblivious and playing home run derby with my fingers. She says to him "your brother just sits back there and plays baseball with his fingers all day!" .. he told me that he shrugged and said to her "what do you want me to do about it?" The nun always threatened to hand cuff me to my desk but never followed through.

Alan07 04-01-2010 04:40 PM

Santa Anita Derby and Wood Memorial to Air Live on NBC
 
NBC Sports presents live, exclusive coverage of the Santa Anita Derby and Wood Memorial Stakes Saturday at 5 p.m. ET on NBC Sports.

The hour-long broadcast will originate from Santa Anita Park in Arcadia, Calif., and is hosted by Tom Hammond and Gary Stevens.

The broadcast team also includes handicapper Mike Battaglia, reporters Kenny Rice and Donna Brothers from Santa Anita.

Bob Neumeier and horse racing analyst Jessica Pacheco provide additional coverage and analysis live from the Wood Memorial at Aqueduct in Ozone Park, NY.

AeWingnut 04-01-2010 05:00 PM

Hopefully Bob will be more respectful of Jessica than Hank The Mush

Alan07 04-01-2010 05:39 PM

Derby Preps Yield Modest TV Ratings
 
The first of three televised programs garnered modest ratings March 27 when USA Network reported that 420,000 viewers tuned in to coverage of the Louisiana Derby (G2) from Fair Grounds and Lane’s End Stakes (G2) from Turfway Park from 5-6 p.m. ET.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...est-tv-ratings

Alan07 04-05-2010 01:10 PM

Wood, SA Derby Draw Solid TV Ratings
 
NBC reported overnight television ratings of 1.7 for its April 3 “Road to the Kentucky Derby” program featuring coverage of the Wood Memorial Stakes and Santa Anita Derby (both gr. I) from 5-6 p.m ET.

The third and final “Road to the Kentucky Derby” program will air Sat., April 10, on NBC with live coverage of the Arkansas Derby (gr. I) from Oaklawn Park and the the Toyota Blue Grass Stakes (gr. I) from Keeneland.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-ratings/print

SilverRP 04-05-2010 04:35 PM

Could have been my tv/ears, but did it sound like Durkin and Denman were calling the race while in a hole? I had to turn the sound up so much, yet could barely hear the call of both races.

Alan07 04-08-2010 01:17 PM

NBC Sports' "Road to the Kentucky Derby" continues this Saturday with the Blue Grass Stakes in Lexington, Ky., and the Arkansas Derby in Hot Springs, Ark., begins Saturday at 5 p.m. ET on NBC Sports.

The hour-long broadcast will originate from Keeneland Racecourse and is hosted by Lexington's Tom Hammond alongside Gary Stevens. The NBC Sports broadcast team also includes handicapper Mike Battaglia, reporters Kenny Rice and Donna Brothers from Keeneland.

Bob Neumeier provides additional coverage and analysis live from the Arkansas Derby at Oaklawn Park in Hot Springs, Ark.

Coach Pants 04-09-2010 11:56 PM

Tom Hammond


Alan07 04-13-2010 07:55 PM

Final Derby Preps on TV Earn .7 Rating
 
NBC reported overnight television ratings of .7/2 for its April 10 coverage of the Blue Grass Stakes and Arkansas Derby.

Nearly 600,000 viewers tuned into the show. Two percent of the televisions in use from 5-6 p.m. ET April 10 were tuned to the racing program

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-earn-7-rating


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