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RockHardTen1985 03-13-2010 05:39 PM

Drugs could be live.

Scav 03-13-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
it looked like a work to me till the last 1/4..he could have opened up a lead that wouldent have been touched if he chose..

While he put the stick away late, he was getting into her man. Calvin was a bit confident.....

Who knows how this will shake out, but it doesn't look good for that race at Oaklawn now.

Payson Dave 03-13-2010 05:40 PM

It was a prep race for a 5mil purse in a few weeks... she got some needed conditioning outta the race...and should move forward at Oaklawn

AeWingnut 03-13-2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
Ya Right...........................

Short yes, but they wanted to win.


if you had a choice of winning today or winning April 9th
and if asking her to run all out would jeopardise winning on April 9th

maybe they wanted to win or wanted her to be further along than she was but it wasn't that important today as it will be the next time

assuming there is going to be a next time

letswastemoney 03-13-2010 05:45 PM

Why does no one even give a thought that Zardana might just be G1 quality on dirt, and RA just needed one?

Instead, everyone is acting like Rachel's career is over.

2Hot4TV 03-13-2010 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
if you had a choice of winning today or winning April 9th
and if asking her to run all out would jeopardise winning on April 9th

maybe they wanted to win or wanted her to be further along than she was but it wasn't that important today as it will be the next time

assuming there is going to be a next time

I think that they need more time to get her back on her game, period. They should of made Zenyatta wait till later in the year to have the CLASH OF TITANS.

2Hot4TV 03-13-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
While he put the stick away late, he was getting into her man. Calvin was a bit confident.....

Who knows how this will shake out, but it doesn't look good for that race at Oaklawn now.

No it doesnt look good and I think its too soon for RA to be at her best, but Zenyatta isn't that good. Right.

2Hot4TV 03-13-2010 05:57 PM

This thread quit real fast.

RockHardTen1985 03-13-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Why does no one even give a thought that Zardana might just be G1 quality on dirt, and RA just needed one?

Instead, everyone is acting like Rachel's career is over.

It likely is. Do you think Jackson takes this like a man and moves forward, or SAVES FACE and blames this on a career ending injury? I think he goes injury route, whats going to happen if they press forward and Z demolishes her?

AeWingnut 03-13-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
It likely is. Do you think Jackson takes this like a man and moves forward, or SAVES FACE and blames this on a career ending injury? I think he goes injury route, whats going to happen if they press forward and Z demolishes her?


you honestly believe they will claim an injury immediately after this race?

I'll bet they don't

2Hot4TV 03-13-2010 06:01 PM

Wait , we still want to see the RA vs Zenyatta race and with both at the top of their game. Dont start trying to find away to spoil the race.

letswastemoney 03-13-2010 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
It likely is. Do you think Jackson takes this like a man and moves forward, or SAVES FACE and blames this on a career ending injury? I think he goes injury route, whats going to happen if they press forward and Z demolishes her?

At least he would settle who is better once and for all so that there is no question.

Zenyatta has never beaten Rachel Alexandra yet. I still want to see the race.

When Zenyatta demolishes RA in a dirt race, with both horses in the race, then I'll stop believing Rachel is better.

RockHardTen1985 03-13-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
you honestly believe they will claim an injury immediately after this race?

I'll bet they don't


I like Rachel, Im not one of these guys who wanted her to get beat... I just SIMPLY THINK ZENYATTA IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN BETTER. I think claiming injury is safe way to get out of this mess, especially if Rachel is going the wrong way.

RockHardTen1985 03-13-2010 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
At least he would settle who is better once and for all so that there is no question.

Zenyatta has never beaten Rachel Alexandra yet. I still want to see the race.

When Zenyatta demolishes RA in a dirt race, with both horses in the race, then I'll stop believing Rachel is better.


Settle who is better?
Are you serious right now? Who is undefeated? Who won the BCC? Who has won on dirt and synthetics? Rachel is great she was amazing last year, but Zenyatta is better.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-13-2010 09:32 PM

When Zenyatta demolishes RA in a dirt race, with both horses in the race, then I'll stop believing Rachel is better.

me too..until then ill wait.

brianwspencer 03-13-2010 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Who is undefeated? Who won the BCC? Who has won on dirt and synthetics?

Who is Peppers Pride? Who is Arcangues? Who is Rachel Alexandra?

I knew I'd crush DT Jeopardy tonight!

DaTruth 03-13-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Who is Peppers Pride? Who is Arcangues? Who is Rachel Alexandra?

I knew I'd crush DT Jeopardy tonight!

:tro:

letswastemoney 03-13-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Settle who is better?
Are you serious right now? Who is undefeated? Who won the BCC? Who has won on dirt and synthetics? Rachel is great she was amazing last year, but Zenyatta is better.

I've never seen Zenyatta run on dirt since she demolished the mighty Brownie Points!!!

Sure, Ginger Punch was in the race....but if you're going to sell me that Zenyatta beat a Ginger Punch on her best game, then you're saying that Brownie Points is better than Ginger Punch.

Gut feeling is that Ginger Punch just didn't fire that day. I need to see Zenyatta on dirt again, against RA, to become a true believer that she is the best on any surface.

Right now, I believe she's the best on any synthetic track.


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