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10 pnt move up 12-01-2009 08:51 AM
Lookin at Lucky might be a decent horse but beyond that nothing of note has shown much in the 2yo colt division in socal.

NoLuvForPletch 12-01-2009 09:02 AM
I LOVE Winslow Homer (the horse, not the painter). By Unbridled's Song out of a Summer Squall mare. November 20 race at Philly Park was just AWESOME. He went a mile with the utmost ease, and the added distance will only help. Larry Jones may have retired 1 year too early.

Indian Charlie 12-01-2009 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
Lookin at Lucky might be a decent horse but beyond that nothing of note has shown much in the 2yo colt division in socal.
No love for Conveyance?

RockHardTen1985 12-01-2009 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Are you saying that Sidney's Candy and Samardo are not good horses since they lost first-time out at 5 1/2 furlongs to Tiny Woods? At this point I don't like Tiny Woods at all, but that doesn't lower my opinion of the other two horses at all. Neither one of those horses were fully cranked up for their debut. The fact that they lost to Tiny Woods at 5 1/2 furlongs first-time out is meaningless.

Both of the races that Sidney's Candy ran in were live races. Marcello came back and won an allowance race and then ran 2nd in a stakes race. Who's Up came back and won a stakes race. Indian Firewater came back and won. The Program came back and won. Those are just off the top of my head. I think there may have been another couple of winners that came out of those maiden races.
um I was not saying that, I was being serious, I like both of them

RockHardTen1985 12-01-2009 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
I LOVE Winslow Homer (the horse, not the painter). By Unbridled's Song out of a Summer Squall mare. November 20 race at Philly Park was just AWESOME. He went a mile with the utmost ease, and the added distance will only help. Larry Jones may have retired 1 year too early.
I could be wrong, but I dont think Jones has anything to do with this horse. I think its Tony Dutrow.

RockHardTen1985 12-01-2009 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
No love for Conveyance?
He is going to the Futurity... I think the group he beat last time was horrible, but he might be ok. I doubt he can beat Looking At Lucky.

Danzig 12-01-2009 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
I could be wrong, but I dont think Jones has anything to do with this horse. I think its Tony Dutrow.

right. but had jones not retired, he'd have the horse. WH is owned by rick porter.

RockHardTen1985 12-01-2009 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
right. but had jones not retired, he'd have the horse. WH is owned by rick porter.
Is this the horse who won the off the turf race at Toga, he beat the Maker Ghostzapper who then came back to win on the turf, who has now turned into a pig.

Sightseek 12-01-2009 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Is this the horse who won the off the turf race at Toga, he beat the Maker Ghostzapper who then came back to win on the turf, who has now turned into a pig.
Yes, he had a huge win at Philly a few weeks ago.

Indian Charlie 12-01-2009 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
He is going to the Futurity... I think the group he beat last time was horrible, but he might be ok. I doubt he can beat Looking At Lucky.
He beat a nwot alw, right?

I wouldn't expect a 2yo allowance race to ever be good.

What's impressive is the way he runs.

Where did you read he is going to the Futurity? Did you also read that Lookin at Lucky is also going there too? This would be surprising to me, as Baffert trains both of them and they both look like serious race horses. I really don't think Baffert would risk losing with Lucky in this spot.

NTamm1215 12-01-2009 12:10 PM
He rolled by over 12 lengths on an off track at Philly and got a 92 Beyer. He might be a decent horse. I'm interested to see where he surfaces, Fla, NY, or wherever else.

NT

RockHardTen1985 12-01-2009 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Yes, he had a huge win at Philly a few weeks ago.
Can you/anyone post the PDF chart of the win? I liked this horse a lot that day at Toga.

RockHardTen1985 12-01-2009 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
He beat a nwot alw, right?

I wouldn't expect a 2yo allowance race to ever be good.

What's impressive is the way he runs.

Where did you read he is going to the Futurity? Did you also read that Lookin at Lucky is also going there too? This would be surprising to me, as Baffert trains both of them and they both look like serious race horses. I really don't think Baffert would risk losing with Lucky in this spot.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/109256.html

NTamm1215 12-01-2009 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
He beat a nwot alw, right?

I wouldn't expect a 2yo allowance race to ever be good.

What's impressive is the way he runs.

Where did you read he is going to the Futurity? Did you also read that Lookin at Lucky is also going there too? This would be surprising to me, as Baffert trains both of them and they both look like serious race horses. I really don't think Baffert would risk losing with Lucky in this spot.
Baffert has four CashCall candidates

The CashCall could have as many as four runners trained by Bob Baffert.

Baffert said Sunday that his candidates are the Breeders' Cup Juvenile runner-up Lookin at Lucky; Marcello, who was second in the Generous Stakes; Conveyance, the winner of an allowance race last Thursday; and Macias, who was fourth in the Grade 3 Hollywood Prevue Stakes on Nov. 19.

Lookin at Lucky will be favored in the CashCall Futurity, but Conveyance will attract attention after winning a six-furlong allowance race by seven lengths in 1:09. Conveyance earned a Beyer Speed Figure of 99.

"I think he's pretty fast," Baffert said. "He ran like he's worked."

http://www.drf.com/news/article/109256.html

NT

Sightseek 12-01-2009 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Can you/anyone post the PDF chart of the win? I liked this horse a lot that day at Toga.
I can only link to it:

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbH...845&registry=T

eajinabi 12-01-2009 12:21 PM
Baffert had a first time starter on Sunday's last race at Hollywood Park that finished second by a nose called Quiet Invader.

Indian Charlie 12-01-2009 12:25 PM
thanks you two.

I would be surprised to see Baffert run Conveyance if LAL goes. As it is now, LAL is probably going to win the Eclipse, and the Futurity could easily be a make or break race for that.

NoLuvForPletch 12-01-2009 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Can you/anyone post the PDF chart of the win? I liked this horse a lot that day at Toga.
Here is a link to the DRF chart...

http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesI...=20091120&RN=5

NoLuvForPletch 12-01-2009 12:39 PM
2010 future book odds
 
http://www.viewfromvegas.com/uploads...-09-Luckys.pdf

10 pnt move up 12-01-2009 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
No love for Conveyance?
talent yes but I have serious doubts about him going long, so yes you are right.


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