I honestly dont care what other GOP members views are. That is their business. It isnt about being a "true" Republican, it is that you have posted virtually nothing that would be considered conservative leaning and have argued vehemently against most, often despite the preponderance of evidence provided. Like saying that Obama isnt a liberal despite:

"The ratings system -- devised in 1981 under the direction of William Schneider, a political analyst and commentator, and a contributing editor to National Journal -- also assigns "composite" scores, an average of the members' issue-based scores. In 2007, Obama's composite liberal score of 95.5 was the highest in the Senate. Rounding out the top five most liberal senators last year were Sens. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., with a composite liberal score of 94.3; Joseph Biden, D-Del., with a 94.2; Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., with a 93.7; and Robert Menendez, D-N.J., with a 92.8. "

No, they don't get that type of Turk. They get the real village-type Turks. See, Germany had a shortage of men after they got so many of them offed in WW2. So, somebody came up with the idea of bringing poor Turks in to do menial jobs. They realized (pretty quickly) that they made a mistake. The men brought in their families. So, they stopped letting them come to work in Germany in the early 70's. Damage was done, though, because many would import a Turk in to marry. Most of them were pre-arranged by their parents...LOL..About 30 to 40 percent marry a cousin. That's one of the reasons the Muslim World is giving us all this sht (they keep inbreeding with their 1st cousins.) I guess the Prophet Mo married his cousin. So, it must be cool, right? Never mind that birth defects are like 10x more common doing this. The idea of having recessive genes must somehow elude these geniuses. Anyways, that's why the Germans have trouble getting them to learn German (keep getting spouses in from Turkey, and they know no German.) So, they stay in these All-Turk areas of cities (ghettos,) and a lot of them never learn any German. Merkel etc. ain't cool with that, because it keeps them pretty useless (not enough factory jobs for them.) The Turk Prime Minister came to Germany, and told them(Turks in a big theater setting) not to assimilate, and the Germans are pssd. That's why they don't want them in the E.U. That's one of the main reasons they voted the way they did. They know that the Turks don't have the values that the European Union embraces (importance of the individual etc.) The Germans n' French know it's just a case of a relatively poor country trying to get some economic advantage.

Oh, no. You try hard enough.

scuds how about linda rice is she not trying as hard at belmont ???

you are blind to any facts put infront of your face. He had the most liberal voting record in congress but you say he wasnt a "true" liberal. Just like you have the most liberal posting record in DT but you are a true "republican".

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I understand what she's doing at Belmont a lot more than what she did at Saratoga. There are a lot of ways to lose. That's so easy.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009...-liberals.html

I guess you will disagree with Michael Moore too. You'd think a radical liberal like him would know a liberal when they see one. I'm guessing he would think you are one too.

maybe it's the water in long island that her barn doesn't like!

The humorous thing about your months of repeatedly calling me a liberal is that you do it because you really do consider it a slur :D

I have called plenty of people here liberals, and none of them seem to take offense. Except for you. You just have a confused political identity. I'm here to try to guide you to your rightful place on the left as a liberal.

Oh, then you can relax, as I will repeat yet again that I am not offended, simply amused at your constant, dependable return to the subject :tro:

Where did that term come from? Seems like Progressive is a much more accurate term for the goals involved. I've always considered Liberal to be the opposite of strict. So, in that way, I think people on the right have tried to sell Liberals as being undisciplined with their kids etc. It's pretty clever. They somehow get a loose morals aspect involved. They do what they do for a reason, and that term isn't going away. I don't like the term ( not that it matters, or anything.) I think it has double meanings, and they know it. Liberal can be an adjective, or a noun. One of the definitions of it (as an adjective) is loose. So, I am not saying the Right started using the term. Someone else probably did, but don't look for them to ever give that term up. It has all the negative multiple meanings they want to involve, and they will never give that up. It's an advantage. Guess I wouldn't give it up, either (if I was them.)

it's probably similar to saying someone is 'a card carrying member of the ACLU' as tho that's akin to devil worship and animal sacrificing. altho the aclu at times may seem to take a very odd, 'wrong' side-i think for the most part they have accomplished quite a bit, and are necessary.

C'mon your comment "Obama has never been considered a "liberal", in the US. At best, center left." was post of the year material

but your refusing to say you were wrong after a preponderance of evidence was shown and correct only in your head is where I find the amusement.

He's not as liberal as I'd like.

But at least you're out about it.

I think people see defecit and forget that a true Liberal would be doing a lot more things that he isn't.

And he's spending all his time hemming and hawing about bipartisanship with a group that has NO interest whatsoever in bipartisanship.

You have the majority, ram this $hit through and take ownership of it. Because all that's happening now is that NOTHING is getting done, and that's gonna get him voted out of office just as fast as people not liking his policies....may as well just get to doing what he was put there to do and we'll all decide whether or not we like it afterwards instead of us deciding whether or not we like his constant capitulating to people who have no interest in working with him at all, and have no qualms about admitting that him losing is the ONLY thing they care about.

They didn't care what we thought for the last eight years, I don't understand the need to play nice now.

Who do you hold up as a true liberal? Karl marx?

Who is? He cant do what you guys want because that would insure your side be out of office for a long time. And he knows it.