i was guessing at the purse money , but , today with the breeding business these owners want to get some of these great horses off the track and into the shed as quick as possible to start the cash register going

but it's pure non-sense to think horse of today can't run as many times in a year as horses from the old days

I am not so sure her last was a huge effort for her. She ran a fig that was well within her comfort zone Scav.. It's not like she tossed a 123 at them. Remember she did beat dog biscuits and its not like she was used real hard the last 1/2 mile.. Ideally you wouldn't run her in 14 days but she isn't going to be running that much longer anyway..Remember they have to breed her to Curlin before his 2 year olds flop..lol

Agree. See my avatar, for example.

Injuries happen all the time. It may be tempting to attribute an injury to a training decision, but I don't think that conclusion would bear up under any rigorous scrutiny. IWR was looking great in training leading up to the Derby, according to Mike Welch. The Pamplemousse and Quality Road also missed the Derby due to injuries, as did Midshipman and Vineyard Haven. Did all of those horses race too much?

Was Rachel Alexandra's Oaks run all that much more exerting than a workout?

--Dunbar

There couldn't have been a better and more lucrative workout than the Oaks to prepare her for this race....you're correct.

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You tell it, girl. :tro:

I agree with Freddy, she looked like she was in cruise control in the stretch and was still pulling away. The race almost looked like a public work. In my opinion (which means nothing), I don't think that the Oaks to much out of her tank.

You never know Freddy.. It can take a ride or two to work out communication between horse and rider. Pat Kelly has told me a lot about difficult to ride horses with Naughty New Yorker as the specific horse on the topic. He isn't a horse you can throw any rider on...

During the Street Sense campaign, not that it necessarily applies the same way here, but Carl Nafzger also was very specific that Borel was his rider of choice for the Juvy/Derby/Travers winner because he was a guy that would communicate to the trainer the nuances he was experiencing on board. Nafzger wanted that so he could make adjustments in the training of the horse.

Don't disagree that they may be Ferraris and Cameros, but few of them have automatic transmissions.

I hope they keep the jock selection suspenseful - just like the Dunkirk/POTN decision

:rolleyes:

I'd like to see Jon Court ride Mine that Bird just to see his wife's huge ta ta's on Jockeys.

steve - look at JD bailey he won of the biggest races of the year one time without ever being on the horse and even being able to talk to the trainer

Good lord I hope they're not using what I think they're using for the stick.

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But he can't win, he's a low percentage jockey.

I have heard that Zito doesn't allow jocks to work his horses in the morning. I am not sure if it is true but perhaps his horses come with special equipment? There is no denying a chemistry forms between the the jock and the horse..

So two weeks is too soon to bring her back but the horses from the Derby can come back with one less day after running harder and longer?

yeah, but the derby is the only triple crown race where a jockey can pull that move. if this horse were to get out last in the preakness and try that last up the rail deal on a fast pimlico track, hes got no shot. and in the belmont it happens like every ten years, if that and the closer usually comes wide off the turn there. calvin does well at CD but like someone said at the other tracks hes just another jock. face it,that horse may never get a better set-up, no matter who rides him. on form, the derby may be a total toss race. we will soon find out.

jockeys are meaningless, i learned this in kindergarten

I really doubt Jackson would spend $10 million just to sit on her for the Acorn. Though I feel the galloped home stuff is overrated, she barely even lifted a foot in the Ky. Oaks. I say the Preakness is a go!

Fans are funny. For one, we want these superstars to race and make headlines and try stuff... now we have the chance, and it's "Mr. Jackson, please don't run her..." Yadda yadda yadda.

johnny why won't MTB pair up in the preakness?