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Cannon Shell 04-12-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterB
I'm sure he will, but to say he or anyone else new this horse was a derby prospect is on drugs. Do you think Mr Mccarthy had the derby in mind? Of course he did, that's why he claimed him. I will say, even in all his losses, he had good fractions.

No one said that he thought he was a Derby prospect when he claimed him. I'm sure they werent even very concerned about losing him THEN. But the fact is that he now is and was claimed from Ramsey which has to burn his ass.

The Indomitable DrugS 04-12-2009 10:29 AM

It should burn his ass - and I'm sure it will.

But he can take some comfort knowing that his big stallion was claimed ... and I believe in a losing effort to Buck Strider no less.

MisterB 04-12-2009 12:38 PM

I am sure he is pissed, just as much when he loses 10k on a race. One thing is for sure, he never had a derby horse, so why cry about it now. He is a claiming guru, and a person who likes to be Winning Owner at meets. Maybe he will turn his efforts to a derby owner now.

VOL JACK 04-12-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I was at Tampa when Ramsey's eventual multiple Grade 1 stakes placed Talent Search debuted for a 12.5K maiden claiming tag.

Of course - there were no takers that day.

I just looked up the dam of General Quarters ... she had to be the all-time worst horse Calumet Farms ever owned.

Yeah, he was trained by the BEST trainer that Ramsey ever employed...:rolleyes:

The Indomitable DrugS 04-12-2009 12:40 PM

Have you seen his record when he ships to Beaulah!?

VOL JACK 04-12-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Have you seen his record when he ships to Beaulah!?

Yeah, we could hit a great clip if we ran horses that are 40-50k claimers with anyone else for 16K at MULEAH.

The Indomitable DrugS 04-12-2009 12:46 PM

Fabulous Strike debuted at Tampa within about four or five days of Talent Search's debut. I was down there for it all.

Them was the good ole days! ... back when they didn't charge you for pepsi refills in the clubhouse dining room at Tampa.

Bigsmc 04-12-2009 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Fabulous Strike debuted at Tampa within about four or five days of Talent Search's debut. I was down there for it all.

Them was the good ole days! ... back when they didn't charge you for pepsi refills in the clubhouse dining room at Tampa.

Their clubhouse has a dining room?

The Indomitable DrugS 04-12-2009 12:52 PM

Yeah.

The one you take the elevator to get to.

Cannon Shell 04-12-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterB
I am sure he is pissed, just as much when he loses 10k on a race. One thing is for sure, he never had a derby horse, so why cry about it now. He is a claiming guru, and a person who likes to be Winning Owner at meets. Maybe he will turn his efforts to a derby owner now.

He is hardly a guru. His efforts to be a Derby owner have been in place for years.

KirisClown 04-12-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I would have liked to have seen a match race between Quality Road's dam - carrying the colors of Allen Paulson ... and General Quarter's dam - carrying the colors of Calumet Farms.

It would have been an epic battle between the two worst horses to ever run in those legendery silks.




Riding Teator...one of the few low points for Mott in the 90s...

The Indomitable DrugS 04-12-2009 01:52 PM

Riding Teator...one of the many low points for Gary Caple at Presque Isle Downs '08.

Cannon Shell 04-12-2009 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown
Riding Teator...one of the few low points for Mott in the 90s...

can't believe he didn't have Bailey on that one

KirisClown 04-12-2009 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
can't believe he didn't have Bailey on that one

Anything with a pulse would have been better than Teator...

Danzig 04-12-2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown
Riding Teator...one of the few low points for Mott in the 90s...


that and having a horse run a '2' beyer.

The Indomitable DrugS 04-12-2009 04:08 PM

I'll toss Big Brown's dam Mien into the race. She was another stellar race mare with a 2 race career ... though her racing career lasted only two weeks.

Track: Churchill Downs
Surface: Dirt
Distance: 10 furlongs
Weight: All horses carry 126lbs







Morning Line & Comments:

Kobla (4/5) Beaten 30+ lengths in both career starts - but has a serious pace advantage and should be able to cruise on a loose lead. Easily owns fields best dirt Beyer.

Mien (7/5) Only horse in field to run a respectable race - but it came on turf. Was barely able to keep contact with the field early on in her lone dirt try and was "distanced"

Ecology (3/1) If Kobla stops to an utter walk after six furlongs and Mien can't handle the dirt again - she could grind out an upset.

Sightseek 04-12-2009 04:16 PM

I'll take Mien...she's a proven winner. :D

KirisClown 04-12-2009 04:20 PM

Were there any decent horses in those two Kobla races?

The Indomitable DrugS 04-12-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Was there another excuse in Mien's first race DrugS? if not, tough to take 4-5 on a horse like that based on pedigree...even if she won

There was no excuse - she just got distanced.

They used to bet Dickinson like a mofo in Maryland - and I'm sure the field she faced 2nd time out was awful.


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