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Sightseek 12-30-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Value Plus is another one who I believe will do well this year. Roman Ruler has about 1000 2 yo's including the great Hostillian so he will have winners. I have heard a lot of good things about Wildcat Heir. Saw some nice Taste of paradise yearlings though most had zero female families. The vast majority of the freshman sires of 09 aren't really cut out to be formidable 2 year old sires. Bwana Charlie may get some fast, early horses though i cant remember seeing any of his foals. I am not crazy about Afleet Alex though he got a nice book of mares first year. If he makes it Gainesway deserves a lot of credit. I saw a lot more bad Eurosilvers than good ones. Grand reward is another with a million 2 yo's and I have seen some nice ones though they usually look they will need more than 4 1/2 f. Darley pushed Consolidator hard though his are another that may need ground. Unforgettable Max is a very well made horse and is a lot cheaper than his brother. Maker has a bunch of Kittens Joy babies at CDT that they have been drilling to get ready for keeneland though i cant see them being very effective sprinting or early. Powerscourt has had some really nice looking yearlings but look like turf and for a Coolmore stallion, there weren't that many of them available in sales. I know very few people thought Offlee Wild was much of a racehorse including me but I think he is a sleeper though i didn't spend of my or clients money backing that opinion. I didn't see a Forest Danger that I thought would make more than 2 starts without the wheels coming off.


Guess you should have spent that money, if Heavenville wins tomorrow he is the top freshman stallion. :$:

32 horses entered, 17 won this year so far - and he still is only going to stand for $7,500.

pgiaco 12-31-2009 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Guess you should have spent that money, if Heavenville wins tomorrow he is the top freshman stallion. :$:

32 horses entered, 17 won this year so far - and he still is only going to stand for $7,500.

Already booked to 120 mares for 2010 also. Had a chance to send 3 mares to him last year and passed. Nice work by me.:rolleyes:

The Indomitable DrugS 12-31-2009 10:17 AM

The overwhelming majority of Offlee Wild's money comes from a single horse.

If you look beyond the BC Juv Fillies winner She Be Juiced ... his 2nd highest earning offspring won some silly LA bred race at Evangeline and has been getting trounced everywhere in the Bayou lately.

His 3rd highest earning offspring is a 0-for-10 maiden named Dant who was just beaten at Woodbine in a 20K maiden claimer.

Scav 12-31-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
The overwhelming majority of Offlee Wild's money comes from a single horse.

If you look beyond the BC Juv Fillies winner She Be Juiced ... his 2nd highest earning offspring won some silly LA bred race at Evangeline and has been getting trounced everywhere in the Bayou lately.

His 3rd highest earning offspring is a 0-for-10 maiden named Dant who was just beaten at Woodbine in a 20K maiden claimer.

More like "She be Hyperbaric'd"

The Indomitable DrugS 12-31-2009 10:45 AM

She Be Something.

Catalano sure has some magic to him.

Scav 12-31-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
She Be Something.

Catalano sure has some magic to him.

I would be real interested to know his stats away from Illinois?

Soaring Softly 01-01-2010 12:03 AM

Here are my 5 freshman sires selections posted on upinclass.com back in February.
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Here are my boys for 2009.

AFLEET ALEX 2002
Northern Afleet(Afleet)x Maggy Hawk(Hawkster)
DP = 5-0-9-0-0 (14) DI = 2.11 CD = 0.71
Gainesway Farm 2009 Fee $20,000

CLOSING ARGUMENT 2002
Successful Appeal(Valid Appeal)x Mrs Greeley(Mr Greeley)
DP = 5-1-4-0-0 (10) DI = 4.00 CD = 1.10
Hill N Dale 2009 Fee $12,500

CONSOLIDATOR 2002
Storm Cat(Storm Bird)x Good Example(Crystal Glitters)
DP = 6-3-7-0-0 (16) DI = 3.57 CD = 0.94
Darley/Jonabell 2009 $15,000

OFFLEE WILD 2000
Wild Again(Icecapade)x Alvear(Seattle Slew)
DP = 12-5-16-0-1 (34) DI = 2.78 CD = 0.79
Darley/Jonabell 2009 $7,500

ROMAN RULER 2002
Fusaichi Pegasus(Mr Prospector)x Silvery Swan(Silver Deputy)
DP = 12-7-11-0-0 (30) DI = 4.45 CD = 1.03
Hill N Dale 2009 $20,000

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I did pretty good really....two of my five finished 1-2, four of my five finished in the top 10, and my biggest disappointment, Consolidator, still made it into the top 20.

I completely acknowledge that Offlee Wild won this race on the merits of one horse, She Be Wild. He didn't have an abundance of other 2yos that made noise. But remember.....in 2005, Tiznow topped the freshman sire list because of only one horse, Folklore, and he has done pretty well for himself in the 4 years since.

Now, I have to get my thinking cap on for 2010. The list in the Bloodhorse Stallion Register isn't particularly inspiring this year. That makes it even more challenging!


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