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TheSpyder 03-28-2009 04:53 PM

Very Happy for Jerkins and I know who I like in the Derby now. Gutsy effort in the lane and if QR has more to improve I say his style and experience makes him the one to beat.

Great ride too.

eajinabi 03-28-2009 04:55 PM

Flop job by Desormaux. Give him the Vlade Divac trophy!

Bobby Fischer 03-28-2009 04:56 PM

now does Pletcher/Dunkirk pull hijinx and rush into something to get more earnings for Derby? or just let it play out naturally and go Preakness, Belmont ?

Travis Stone 03-28-2009 04:56 PM

Pletcher wasn't too happy after the race, did anyone hear the line he gave Edwards? That was awesome regardless, great horse race!

Cannon Shell 03-28-2009 04:56 PM

Cant tell you how happy I am for JJ.

Though Pletcher was right, the track is ridiculous today.

The Lexington just got a lot tougher

randallscott35 03-28-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
now does Dunkirk pull hijinx and rush into something to get more earnings for Derby? or just let it play out naturally and go Preakness, Belmont ?

I can't see them going to the Lex for that. They await the Preakness, but he may yet get in at 150k. Time will tell.

cakes44 03-28-2009 04:57 PM

I'm liking my 18-1 on Friesan Fire more every week.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-28-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
no reason to knock either. They both ran big.
Quality Road might be the triple crown horse this year.

Has a good chance to win the Derby, but it's too deep a year for him to win the T.C.

Bobby Fischer 03-28-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Pletcher wasn't too happy after the race, did anyone hear the line he gave Edwards? That was awesome regardless, great horse race!

can you paraphrase it?
watching via xpressbet video feed

eajinabi 03-28-2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
now does Dunkirk pull hijinx and rush into something to get more earnings for Derby? or just let it play out naturally and go Preakness, Belmont ?

Go for the Peter Pan and beat Also rans then build the hype for the Belmont and scratch the day before. Its called the Casino Drive Strategy

The Indomitable DrugS 03-28-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Great ride too.


JRV placed him in a great spot - but almost got caught with his pants down on the far turn.

I don't think he ever saw Dunkirk until he was almost on level terms. He appeared to be looking back for Dunkirk as well just before he got level. I'm sure he'd have liked to push the button a tad sooner had he saw Dunkirk coming to him with a head of steam.

Garret Gomez rode a tremendous race. I don't think the track was playing kind to Dunkirk's style ... but he placed him perfectly - moved at the perfect time - and almost caught JRV sleeping.

Cannon Shell 03-28-2009 05:00 PM

That may be the all time lame excuse. They got rain last Sunday?

Sightseek 03-28-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Cant tell you how happy I am for JJ.

Though Pletcher was right, the track is ridiculous today.

The Lexington just got a lot tougher

But do you think he would have said that if he had Quality Road?

mclem0822 03-28-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Pletcher wasn't too happy after the race, did anyone hear the line he gave Edwards? That was awesome regardless, great horse race!

It was a great race I agree, I'd love to see them both go on to the Derby. The track records keep getting smashed today.

justindew 03-28-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
That may be the all time lame excuse. They got rain last Sunday?

Agreed. Pletcher is correct to bitch, although he could have scratched.

Cannon Shell 03-28-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
But do you think he would have said that if he had Quality Road?

While it does look a little like whining after the fact, the track was certainly souped up. Though that isnt a real big surprise

Cannon Shell 03-28-2009 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew
Agreed. Pletcher is correct to bitch, although he could have scratched.

True. he should have bitched after the 1st.

ArlJim78 03-28-2009 05:05 PM

Velasquez never saw Dunkirk until quite late, I thought Dunkirk had the clear jump on him. They both dug in impressively.
Its criminal how they monkey with the tracks on big days, and I still don't know why they do it. Who does it benefit?

Bobby Fischer 03-28-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Has a good chance to win the Derby, but it's too deep a year for him to win the T.C.

Belmont is a big stretch but he stamped himself Derby Preakness favorite.

For those who felt Friesan Fire wasn't brilliant enough have a more talented alternative...


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