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Crown@club 12-29-2008 05:23 PM

Favre better put in a full season of conditioning, if not, its time to retire.

MaTH716 12-29-2008 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club
Favre's not going to put in a full season of conditioning, its time to retire.

FTFY.
Do you really think at this point of his career, that he is going to spend the off season conditioning to learn another totally different scheme?
I really think the only way Favre stays is if the JETS throw enough money at Mike Holmgren that he forgets about taking a sabatical and asks Brett to stay on for another year. Otherwise, Brett will be reciting that same retirement speech from last season.

Coach Pants 12-29-2008 05:35 PM

I just find it odd that Bellychick's assistants, for the most part, have failed as head coaches.

It's also odd that the Patriots haven't been as dominant since they were caught CHEATING. GOD DAMN CHEATERS.!!!

Crown@club 12-29-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
FTFY.
Do you really think at this point of his career, that he is going to spend the off season conditioning to learn another totally different scheme?
I really think the only way Favre stays is if the JETS throw enough money at Mike Holmgren that he forgets about taking a sabatical and asks Brett to stay on for another year. Otherwise, Brett will be reciting that same retirement speech from last season.

Green Bay hired trainers and sent them to Mississippi to keep Favre in shape. Nothing happened this year, then Favre pulled his crap, and it showed down the stretch that he tired out.

MaTH716 12-29-2008 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club
Green Bay hired trainers and sent them to Mississippi to keep Favre in shape. Nothing happened this year, then Favre pulled his crap, and it showed down the stretch that he tired out.

Agreed that he wasn't good. But neither was the coaching, the play calling, the running game, the wide recievers. And then you had the defense.........

philcski 12-29-2008 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I just find it odd that Bellychick's assistants, for the most part, have failed as head coaches.

It's also odd that the Patriots haven't been as dominant since they were caught CHEATING. GOD DAMN CHEATERS.!!!

LOLZ... 16-1 last year since Spygate and 11-5 with a career backup QB this year.
I'm a fan of a team in the same division and I STILL think that's impressive.

No explaining the Bellyboy's assistants not doing well as head coaches though, it's like sires I guess- an inexact science.

dalakhani 12-29-2008 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
LOLZ... 16-1 last year since Spygate and 11-5 with a career backup QB this year.
I'm a fan of a team in the same division and I STILL think that's impressive.

No explaining the Bellyboy's assistants not doing well as head coaches though, it's like sires I guess- an inexact science.

The pats were 2-4 against playoff teams this year. That would make them 9-1 against the dregs with the 1 coming at home to the jets. Of those 4 losses, 3 came by 20 points or more. What does that tell you?

Belichick is a good coach that caught lightning in a bottle with one Tom Brady. Look at his record before Brady. Nothing special.

Not to say that Belichick isnt a fine coach. Just to say that maybe the reason his assistants don't do so well when they leave is because of lack of brady.

It says a lot about a coach to me when their team/system succeeds with different QB's at the helm. It will be interesting to see how well Belichick does Post Brady.

ateamstupid 12-30-2008 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
The pats were 2-4 against playoff teams this year. That would make them 9-1 against the dregs with the 1 coming at home to the jets. Of those 4 losses, 3 came by 20 points or more. What does that tell you?

Belichick is a good coach that caught lightning in a bottle with one Tom Brady. Look at his record before Brady. Nothing special.

Not to say that Belichick isnt a fine coach. Just to say that maybe the reason his assistants don't do so well when they leave is because of lack of brady.

It says a lot about a coach to me when their team/system succeeds with different QB's at the helm. It will be interesting to see how well Belichick does Post Brady.

A lot of dipshit Pats fans (somewhat redundant) are already aboard the Cassel bandwagon and are talking about the Brady era in the past tense. If there was one instance to sum up why Pats fans have no credibility, there it is.

Bigsmc 12-30-2008 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
A lot of dipshit Pats fans (somewhat redundant) are already aboard the Cassel bandwagon and are talking about the Brady era in the past tense. If there was one instance to sum up why Pats fans have no credibility, there it is.

They can't possibly be serious. Brady is one of the best ever and still in his prime. Cassel has a super chance to become Scott Mitchell.

ateamstupid 12-30-2008 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
They can't possibly be serious. Brady is one of the best ever and still in his prime. Cassel has a super chance to become Scott Mitchell.

If he's lucky.

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal..._brady_be.html

Check the comments.

Bigsmc 12-30-2008 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Those are hilarious. Talk about panic.

I'm sure Cassel will be okay in the NE system, but they are out of their minds to think that he will be better than a surgically repaired Brady. Even if Brady is behind and isn't ready until mid-season or so, he's still a better option than Cassel.

ateamstupid 12-30-2008 08:59 AM

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Those are hilarious. Talk about panic.

I'm sure Cassel will be okay in the NE system, but they are out of their minds to think that he will be better than a surgically repaired Brady. Even if Brady is behind and isn't ready until mid-season or so, he's still a better option than Cassel.

There are dumbass Jet fans (shocking, I know) that are clamoring for Cassel too. Luckily they get shouted down by other, not totally moronic fans. I'd prefer Ratliff and even Clemens over Cassel.

philcski 12-30-2008 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
There are dumbass Jet fans (shocking, I know) that are clamoring for Cassel too. Luckily they get shouted down by other, not totally moronic fans. I'd prefer Ratliff and even Clemens over Cassel.

Just about every Jet fan in my office is clamoring for Cassel.

Would be a TERRIBLE mistake to go after him. He's better than anybody ever expected... but the fact of the matter is Randy Moss and his coach make him look good.

philcski 12-30-2008 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
The pats were 2-4 against playoff teams this year. That would make them 9-1 against the dregs with the 1 coming at home to the jets. Of those 4 losses, 3 came by 20 points or more. What does that tell you?

Belichick is a good coach that caught lightning in a bottle with one Tom Brady. Look at his record before Brady. Nothing special.

Not to say that Belichick isnt a fine coach. Just to say that maybe the reason his assistants don't do so well when they leave is because of lack of brady.

It says a lot about a coach to me when their team/system succeeds with different QB's at the helm. It will be interesting to see how well Belichick does Post Brady.

Dolphins: 1-2 against playoff teams
Ravens: 2-5 against playoff teams
Steelers: 3-4 against playoff teams
Titans: 3-1 against playoff teams
Colts: 5-1 against playoff teams

Says here their 2-4 record against playoff teams is competitive with the two teams they were competing with for a spot.

Postscript: the more I look at it, the more I think the Colts can run the table on the road and win this thing.

Antitrust32 12-30-2008 04:14 PM

I've thought for a few weeks now that the Colts are gonna win the SB... they have been an under the radar team who started off slow and is as hot or hotter than anyone..

not to mention the best QB actively playing.

ateamstupid 12-30-2008 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I've thought for a few weeks now that the Colts are gonna win the SB... they have been an under the radar team who started off slow and is as hot or hotter than anyone..

not to mention the best QB actively playing.

I think the Chargers will beat 'em. They're the only home team I'm picking this week.

GBBob 12-30-2008 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I think the Chargers will beat 'em. They're the only home team I'm picking this week.

That's the only thing you and I have agreed on this month;)

ateamstupid 12-30-2008 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Just about every Jet fan in my office is clamoring for Cassel.

Would be a TERRIBLE mistake to go after him. He's better than anybody ever expected... but the fact of the matter is Randy Moss and his coach make him look good.

Those are the same dumbass Jet fans who were/are dying for Favre, Cowher, etc. Whatever big name they trick themselves into thinking is the saviour. It pisses me off because these are the morons that Woody feels like he needs to pander to when, in reality, true Jet fans can see through marketing ploys and just want a winner. We'll take a bunch of no-names who win 10+ games ('06) over a bunch of underachieving Pro Bowlers ('08).

If they go get Cassel, I'll be pissed.

philcski 12-30-2008 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Those are the same dumbass Jet fans who were/are dying for Favre, Cowher, etc. Whatever big name they trick themselves into thinking is the saviour. It pisses me off because these are the morons that Woody feels like he needs to pander to when, in reality, true Jet fans can see through marketing ploys and just want a winner. We'll take a bunch of no-names who win 10+ games ('06) over a bunch of underachieving Pro Bowlers ('08).

If they go get Cassel, I'll be pissed.

Keep this in mind, too... Even though he'll be a free agent the Pats are a very smart organization- they're not going to just let him walk to sign with a division rival if they think he's worth his weight in jockstraps, especially with Brady not progressing as planned. If they do, that speaks volumes.

dalakhani 12-30-2008 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Keep this in mind, too... Even though he'll be a free agent the Pats are a very smart organization- they're not going to just let him walk to sign with a division rival if they think he's worth his weight in jockstraps, especially with Brady not progressing as planned. If they do, that speaks volumes.

That would be cap destruction though phil. Even if the pats thought Casell was worth it, they cant afford to pay a backup QB starter money and starter money is what Casell will get from any other team. They would have no choice but to let him walk.

Casell leaving is a foregone conclusion if there is any interest and it appears there will be...regardless of how misguided that interest may be.


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