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GBBob 01-06-2009 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
The poster is entitled to their opinion , if you dont agree fine but why do people on this site and alot of others resort to name calling if they dont agree with what someone has to say. Calling people names and assuming that because they have a diffirent view than you that they are a nimrod is just proof of how simple minded YOU the name caller are. Most likely in real life you wouldnt dare to speak to someone like this to their face without expecting a reaction on their part , most likely a physical reaction.
Not everyone agrees with everyone , so what ?????? , state your case , agree to disagree , but as adults we should be able to debate things without calling people names and acting like elementary students.

Hey Honu...It was a racist post and racism is stupid so that is why I called him stupid. And I'll gladly speak face to face with anyone who is a racist and call them stupid.

Honu 01-06-2009 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Hey Honu...It was a racist post and racism is stupid so that is why I called him stupid. And I'll gladly speak face to face with anyone who is a racist and call them stupid.


I dont get how Chris was being a racist???? Did not the poster state how they couldnt understand our governments intrest in a war that has been waged for decades upon decades ? Did not the poster show really no empathy for either side in this whole thing? So the poster hates Jews and Arabs? I dont know ....that is not what I got from what Chris was saying but if that is how you took it so be it.

GBBob 01-06-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
I dont get how Chris was being a racist???? Did not the poster state how they couldnt understand our governments intrest in a war that has been waged for decades upon decades ? Did not the poster show really no empathy for either side in this whole thing? So the poster hates Jews and Arabs? I dont know ....that is not what I got from what Chris was saying but if that is how you took it so be it.

I'm not Jewish, but never considered them "religous wackos" or an insignificant country. His claims that because they don't have oil therefore we shouldn't care what happens to them also qualified as "stupid" in my World.

I don't think I have ever called anyone "stupid" in however many posts I have on here, but to me, what he wrote qualified.

somerfrost 01-06-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Hey Honu...It was a racist post and racism is stupid so that is why I called him stupid. And I'll gladly speak face to face with anyone who is a racist and call them stupid.


I say nothing on this or any other board that I haven't or wouldn't say to anyone's face...and your presumption that fear of physical response would silence me in insulting....you don't know me so don't presume otherwise!
If I had a dollar for everytime I've been personally attacked for my beliefs on the net....well, I could pay for the therapy I'd no doubt need due to being so insecure...it's the nature of public discourse, especially on the net. Since the net doesn't allow for face-to-face discourse, one's words are the only projection of self that others have, therefore, if your words are racist, you will be responded to as such...your beliefs are well-documented by your earlier posts, you want to defend this guy because you believe the same way...that's fine, but don't mask it in some psuedo Rodney King speak!

Honu 01-06-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I'm not Jewish, but never considered them "religous wackos" or an insignificant country. His claims that because they don't have oil therefore we shouldn't care what happens to them also qualified as "stupid" in my World.

I don't think I have ever called anyone "stupid" in however many posts I have on here, but to me, what he wrote qualified.

That is your opinion ....so do you care about all the prisoners being raped by other inmates in jails all across America , I know it doesnt affect you but do you care ? I dont think Chris was saying that the Jews were whacko but might have been refereing to the Palestinians , either way , go on with your bad self , call people names if you see fit after all it is only your opinion.

I sit corrected Chris posted disdain for both sides , still its just an opinion.

GBBob 01-06-2009 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
That is your opinion ....so do you care about all the prisoners being raped by other inmates in jails all across America , I know it doesnt affect you but do you care ? I dont think Chris was saying that the Jews were whacko but might have been refereing to the Palestinians , either way , go on with your bad self , call people names if you see fit after all it is only your opinion.

lol..I'm a bleeding heart liberal Honu..I'm usually accused of caring too much.

Of course Chris was saying that (Jews are whacko)...and you called me a nimrod...shame on you:rolleyes:

somerfrost 01-06-2009 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
lol..I'm a bleeding heart liberal Honu..I'm usually accused of caring too much.

Of course Chris was saying that (Jews are whacko)...and you called me a nimrod...shame on you:rolleyes:

How did we get from Gaza to abuses in US Prisons???
Since the question was asked...of course I care!

Honu 01-06-2009 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
I say nothing on this or any other board that I haven't or wouldn't say to anyone's face...and your presumption that fear of physical response would silence me in insulting....you don't know me so don't presume otherwise!
If I had a dollar for everytime I've been personally attacked for my beliefs on the net....well, I could pay for the therapy I'd no doubt need due to being so insecure...it's the nature of public discourse, especially on the net. Since the net doesn't allow for face-to-face discourse, one's words are the only projection of self that others have, therefore, if your words are racist, you will be responded to as such...your beliefs are well-documented by your earlier posts, you want to defend this guy because you believe the same way...that's fine, but don't mask it in some psuedo Rodney King speak!

Somer dont get your panties in wad .....I have stated before that I dont agree with calling people names because we dont know most of each other in real life........I believe what I believe , if you dont like it or agree with it thats fine , but to lower your own intellect by resorting to name calling is just childish. You dont know what I believe or how I see the world you take a few posts and from that you gather to know what I think about all things .
The Arabs and the Jews have been fighting for as long as time has ticked , the Arabs and others have been doing the same thing. I think the people in most Middle Eastern countries wouldnt know how to live a peacefull life if it were handed to them on a silver platter. Does this make me a racist ? Maybe in your eyes it does , but Im not , I dont hate anyone , what I do hate is the stupidness of fighting on the grounds of faith , the stupidness of teaching people that it is ok to create chaos in the world , that it is ok to kill people with no regard to innocent lives.

Honu 01-06-2009 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
How did we get from Gaza to abuses in US Prisons???
Since the question was asked...of course I care!


I know it was off subject but I was just making a statement about caring about things that dont affect you . So really truly in your heart you care about a child molester who gets raped in prison everyday ? . You are one of the most noble people I have ever virtually met.

miraja2 01-06-2009 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
dont get your panties in wad......I have stated before that I dont agree with calling people names.

:zz:

Honu 01-06-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
lol..I'm a bleeding heart liberal Honu..I'm usually accused of caring too much.

Of course Chris was saying that (Jews are whacko)...and you called me a nimrod...shame on you:rolleyes:

I didnt call you a nimrod , I reffered it lol.

GBBob 01-06-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
Somer dont get your panties in wad .....I have stated before that I dont agree with calling people names because we dont know most of each other in real life........I believe what I believe , if you dont like it or agree with it thats fine , but to lower your own intellect by resorting to name calling is just childish. You dont know what I believe or how I see the world you take a few posts and from that you gather to know what I think about all things .
The Arabs and the Jews have been fighting for as long as time has ticked , the Arabs and others have been doing the same thing. I think the people in most Middle Eastern countries wouldnt know how to live a peacefull life if it were handed to them on a silver platter. Does this make me a racist ? Maybe in your eyes it does , but Im not , I dont hate anyone , what I do hate is the stupidness of fighting on the grounds of faith , the stupidness of teaching people that it is ok to create chaos in the world , that it is ok to kill people with no regard to innocent lives.

Honu..read what you wrote and read what QC wrote...I think there is a huge difference in the attitude and the respect given to the people involved over there.

somerfrost 01-06-2009 02:08 PM

[quote=Honu]Somer dont get your panties in wad .....I have stated before that I dont agree with calling people names because we dont know most of each other in real life........I believe what I believe , if you dont like it or agree with it thats fine , but to lower your own intellect by resorting to name calling is just childish. You dont know what I believe or how I see the world you take a few posts and from that you gather to know what I think about all things .
The Arabs and the Jews have been fighting for as long as time has ticked , the Arabs and others have been doing the same thing. I think the people in most Middle Eastern countries wouldnt know how to live a peacefull life if it were handed to them on a silver platter. Does this make me a racist ? Maybe in your eyes it does , but Im not , I dont hate anyone , what I do hate is the stupidness of fighting on the grounds of faith , the stupidness of teaching people that it is ok to create chaos in the world , that it is ok to kill people with no regard to innocent lives.[/QUOT


You prove my point, all that we know about each other is taken from the words we post...you can click on your handle and review all your previous posts (as I did), they clearly demonstrate your view on all followers of Islam, you state that Muslim = Terrorist and your words such as "I think the people.....if it were handed to them on a silver platter" are demeaning, not to mention simplistic. You defend a person who refers to Muslims and Jews as "neanderthals".....your words speak for themselves. By the way, my intellect remains as is, not effected by internet posts or trite attempts at demonization...! Finally, I agree 100% with you statement beginning with, "what I do hate...."

somerfrost 01-06-2009 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
I know it was off subject but I was just making a statement about caring about things that dont affect you . So really truly in your heart you care about a child molester who gets raped in prison everyday ? . You are one of the most noble people I have ever virtually met.


I suspect anyone who knows me or has read my posts over the years will answer that...god knows I've taken plenty of heat over just that issue!

Honu 01-06-2009 02:23 PM

[quote=somerfrost]
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Originally Posted by Honu
Somer dont get your panties in wad .....I have stated before that I dont agree with calling people names because we dont know most of each other in real life........I believe what I believe , if you dont like it or agree with it thats fine , but to lower your own intellect by resorting to name calling is just childish. You dont know what I believe or how I see the world you take a few posts and from that you gather to know what I think about all things .
The Arabs and the Jews have been fighting for as long as time has ticked , the Arabs and others have been doing the same thing. I think the people in most Middle Eastern countries wouldnt know how to live a peacefull life if it were handed to them on a silver platter. Does this make me a racist ? Maybe in your eyes it does , but Im not , I dont hate anyone , what I do hate is the stupidness of fighting on the grounds of faith , the stupidness of teaching people that it is ok to create chaos in the world , that it is ok to kill people with no regard to innocent lives.[/QUOT


You prove my point, all that we know about each other is taken from the words we post...you can click on your handle and review all your previous posts (as I did), they clearly demonstrate your view on all followers of Islam, you state that Muslim = Terrorist and your words such as "I think the people.....if it were handed to them on a silver platter" are demeaning, not to mention simplistic. You defend a person who refers to Muslims and Jews as "neanderthals".....your words speak for themselves. By the way, my intellect remains as is, not effected by internet posts or trite attempts at demonization...! Finally, I agree 100% with you statement beginning with, "what I do hate...."


Well then call me a bigot for saying what I believe is the truth.....and I think a small part of you thinks its the truth also, doesnt mean I hate them , I hate what they do , there is a diffirence.

Honu 01-06-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
I suspect anyone who knows me or has read my posts over the years will answer that...god knows I've taken plenty of heat over just that issue!


Wow is all I can say .... u are a saint , you should run for president in 4 years.

somerfrost 01-06-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
Wow is all I can say .... u are a saint , you should run for president in 4 years.


LOL! Been called lots of names because of my beliefs but that's a new one.

Honu 01-06-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
LOL! Been called lots of names because of my beliefs but that's a new one.

If u ran Id vote for you , I think you could Kumbahya the world into peace.:)

Quiet Chris 01-06-2009 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
This type of (non) thinking is the basis for the pretty much all the world's problems...I know you won't accept the reason why we must care...but the worth of a single life isn't determined by what they do for you! This is tragic and...as always...the innocent suffer. Why should we care? How can we not? You call these people "neanderthals" yet you express a complete lack of humanity...the trait most often displayed by advanced intellect and sociological development.....next time you feel the need to dehumanize people...take a long look in the mirror!


So we should waste time and taxpayer dollars worrying about a few thousand people that have been killing each other for thousands of years.

How about we take care of our own poor people first. Or how about taking care of millions in Africa? We waste more money on these lunatic countries in the middle east than we do helping starving people. Billions more.

Quiet Chris 01-06-2009 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Hey Honu...It was a racist post and racism is stupid so that is why I called him stupid. And I'll gladly speak face to face with anyone who is a racist and call them stupid.

Racist? All I was saying is they are religious wackos. That isn't racist, those are facts. We have plenty here in America too, but they don't control our government. Gaza is essentially religious wackos who want to get rid of an entire religion and country in Israel, and Israel is a country of religious wackos that put religious symbols on their flag and think God gave them a piece of land.

This is 2009. How could anyone actually believe that God wants people to blow themselves up in the name of God or that God has a country of chosen people that rightfully should have a piece of land because a book like the Bible says they do.

People that think like this are living in the stone ages.

Thank God for our founding fathers that respected religion but understood religion has no place in government.

Believing in God and believing in a man made religion are two different things. In America we respect all religions, in Gaza an Israel they don't.


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