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Rudeboyelvis 12-13-2008 11:19 PM

And give it up to my man Bigsmc for pulling out Sticky Wicket in the finale at 11-1,... The master of the TBD Maiden Claimers.... Just refer to him as the Hungarian Gentleman from here on out.....

Bigsmc 12-14-2008 06:20 AM

In case anybody was confused on wether the downturn in handle is economy related or ADW related, Tampa has a deal with all of the ADW's and....

Attendance down 472 from last year.

All source handle of $4.54 million UP 16% from last year's opening day. http://www.tampabaydowns.com/Racing/...sReleaseId=245

People still have money to wager, they have nowhere to wager it.

Bigsmc 12-14-2008 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
And give it up to my man Bigsmc for pulling out Sticky Wicket in the finale at 11-1,... The master of the TBD Maiden Claimers.... Just refer to him as the Hungarian Gentleman from here on out.....

That last race has bailed my arse out over the years more times than I can possibly count.

:)

GPK 12-14-2008 07:20 AM

Another positive that we can take from opening day is that Wasiluk got his ONE win of the meet already, so everything else he sends out should be an auto-toss for the remainder of the meet:)

philcski 12-15-2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
In case anybody was confused on wether the downturn in handle is economy related or ADW related, Tampa has a deal with all of the ADW's and....

Attendance down 472 from last year.

All source handle of $4.54 million UP 16% from last year's opening day. http://www.tampabaydowns.com/Racing/...sReleaseId=245

People still have money to wager, they have nowhere to wager it.

12, 9, 8, 10, 12, 10, 10, 8, 11, 10, 12

not a Morty cipher, but rather the number of runners in each of the races at TBD on Saturday. People want interesting races with full fields and fair tracks, and TB delivers.

CD had some good cards this fall but nobody could bet it.

Bigsmc 12-15-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
12, 9, 8, 10, 12, 10, 10, 8, 11, 10, 12

not a Morty cipher, but rather the number of runners in each of the races at TBD on Saturday. People want interesting races with full fields and fair tracks, and TB delivers.

CD had some good cards this fall but nobody could bet it.

Exactly.

docicu3 12-15-2008 10:48 PM

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Exactly.


I wish they ran on Tuesday's when nothing else is going. Wednesday has all the other big city tracks competing for the buck.

GPK 12-16-2008 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
I wish they ran on Tuesday's when nothing else is going. Wednesday has all the other big city tracks competing for the buck.


They will be running on Tuesdays shortly

Antitrust32 12-16-2008 09:07 AM

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They will be running on Tuesdays shortly

dont be so hard on yourself

GPK 12-16-2008 09:10 AM

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dont be so hard on yourself


Rather me be hard on you??;)

docicu3 12-16-2008 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Rather me be hard on you??;)


You guys should repost your "Players guide to TBD" you posted a year or two back. It was a collection of great posts about trainer angles for the place complete with jockey/trainer combos to watch for, who wins with first timers etc. Who was the guy who was posting P4's with you Kev,Bigs and Rude that killed them the second half of last year??

jenroypa 12-16-2008 11:43 AM

tiggerv had a streak at TBD last year.. Is that who you were thinking of?

docicu3 12-16-2008 06:05 PM

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tiggerv had a streak at TBD last year.. Is that who you were thinking of?


YES that was the guy!!

Let's get cracking on Tomorrow.....Late P4 anyone??

GPK 12-16-2008 06:14 PM

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YES that was the guy!!

Let's get cracking on Tomorrow.....Late P4 anyone??


I'm looking at it later tonight and then again in the morning.

docicu3 12-16-2008 06:36 PM

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I'm looking at it later tonight and then again in the morning.

I actually thought the 6th race was interesting as well. The immortal Dean Butler (somebody here is family) is up on #2 Frontier Fanny who caught my eye. The #9 CBT Snake eye is likely the chalk with a few AE's that are interesting should they draw in. #10 Starlight Drove might also be interesting from the outside post on a claim back by Moises Yanez who won twice with Starlight Dove at Hawthorne in allowance races at least the par of this 32K OC.

So I would use the 2,9,10 in the multi's and probably box a few tri's and exacta's keying these 3. Thoughts Tampa Trio?? Back with the first two races of the late P4 after I put this long plastic tube..........errrr never mind you don't really want to know!!

GPK 12-16-2008 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
I actually thought the 6th race was interesting as well. The immortal Dean Butler (somebody here is family) is up on #2 Frontier Fanny who caught my eye. The #9 CBT Snake eye is likely the chalk with a few AE's that are interesting should they draw in. #10 Starlight Drove might also be interesting from the outside post on a claim back by Moises Yanez who won twice with Starlight Dove at Hawthorne in allowance races at least the par of this 32K OC.

So I would use the 2,9,10 in the multi's and probably box a few tri's and exacta's keying these 3. Thoughts Tampa Trio?? Back with the first two races of the late P4 after I put this long plastic tube..........errrr never mind you don't really want to know!!


Paint Me Red will be getting some of my :$: :$: in the 6th

docicu3 12-16-2008 07:51 PM

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Paint Me Red will be getting some of my :$: :$: in the 6th


Paint Me Red = (pro) a) has history of a nice closing kick when right b) by trainer who won the last with a bomb on opening day. Con a) Has never won on turf or at this distance.

If I was going to add a horse in the 6th to the 2,9,10 it would be the #4

#4 The Laddie Waffles a) has won 11 of 34 b) has been in Tampa for 2 months with 4 decent works since her last which was c) a nice victory in allowance company at a mile at Presque Isle. This one likes to win.

GPK 12-16-2008 08:16 PM

Toss the overnight and the yielding ground, and his race 3 back puts him there. Will get overlooked too.

Rudeboyelvis 12-16-2008 09:19 PM

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#4 The Laddie Waffles a) has won 11 of 34 b) has been in Tampa for 2 months with 4 decent works since her last which was c) a nice victory in allowance company at a mile at Presque Isle. This one likes to win.

Doc - no pp's in front of me but I recall the name cause I used her in just about every P4 ticket she ran last season and being sorely disappointed. Don't let me talk you off her - I like the 2 and hope we get a price. B. Rhone drops bombs on the turf - he and DB were 100% ITM opening day 3-3 with a win in the Stake at a huge price. He usually has 'em ready early

Bigsmc 12-16-2008 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Doc - no pp's in front of me but I recall the name cause I used her in just about every P4 ticket she ran last season and being sorely disappointed. Don't let me talk you off her - I like the 2 and hope we get a price. B. Rhone drops bombs on the turf - he and DB were 100% ITM opening day 3-3 with a win in the Stake at a huge price. He usually has 'em ready early

I don't have her lifetime pp's in front of me, but I do recall her big year at Tampa was two years ago and most of her wins were sprinting on the dirt if I am recalling correctly.

I used her often last year too. :mad:


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