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Danzig 10-09-2008 05:51 PM

i think steve should have a 'silly' room for threads like this. hey, maybe tomcito can come to the classic too. that would make for a really, really great race.:rolleyes:

King Glorious 10-09-2008 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Well have you ever seen an AP Indy relative not like a longer distance? If AP Indy specializes in producing long distance runners and Better than Honour has produced 2 Belmont winners already, odds are Casino Drive's best distance will be longer.

The odds may indeed be in that direction but they don't tell me what SHOULD happen.

Quiet Chris 10-09-2008 06:06 PM

He probably won't win the race, but he sure as hell could determine who does. If they send this horse to the lead and nobody goes with him, goodbye. Somebody will go with him though and that somebody will probably not been there at the end.

Victor Espinoza is on this horse and you can be sure come Breeders Cup day that he will try to pull off another War Emblem.

This horse will be overbet though because of Japanese money. I wouldn't be shocked if he is the 4th or 5th choice.

Bobby Fischer 10-09-2008 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Sunday:

8TH (4:00)

1 1/16 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Allowance | Purse: $52,000

Post # Horse Jockey Weight Claim Price Equip. Med.
1 Dakota Phone Bejarano R 120 L
2 Casino Drive Espinoza V 116
3 Gregorian Bay Garcia M 120 L
4 By Spot (BRZ) Valdivia J Jr 120 L
5 Informed Gryder A T 120 L
6 Sensational Score Rosario J 120 L
7 Asperity Sorenson D 120 L

this is no free ride

Sensational Score , and Informed are competitive

Coach Pants 10-09-2008 10:05 PM

I might bridgejump

































I mean literally jump off a bridge if pg AND kyrim show up

hrfan 10-09-2008 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
this is no free ride

Sensational Score , and Informed are competitive

i dont want to humor anyone here, but are you serious ?
if he is sound, he wins for fun. this horse has as much Raw Talent as anyone.

Quiet Chris 10-10-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
i dont want to humor anyone here, but are you serious ?
if he is sound, he wins for fun. this horse has as much Raw Talent as anyone.

He has as much raw talent as any 3yr old, which isn't saying much. There are some older horses going that appear to have significantly more talent. If this was a 12f race and he had prepped in the JCGC then maybe.

Kasept 10-10-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Best thread ever as of right now, but when hrfan checks in, it belongs in the Hall of Fame.

:)
:tro:


May the circle be unbroken...

Bobby Fischer 10-10-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
i dont want to humor anyone here, but are you serious ?
if he is sound, he wins for fun. this horse has as much Raw Talent as anyone.

I really don't know anything about Casino Drive.

He sure looked good in the Peter Pan.

WTF is up with 2 races lifetime?

Does he even like synthetic?

Does he have enough early foot at a mile & sixteenth?

Honestly I hope he looks great Sunday, but I would consider a play against in the multi-race.

cowgirlintexas 10-11-2008 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Best thread ever as of right now, but when hrfan checks in, it belongs in the Hall of Fame.


Quote:

Originally Posted by hrfan
i dont want to humor anyone here, but are you serious ?
if he is sound, he wins for fun. this horse has as much Raw Talent as anyone.

:D

Betsy 10-11-2008 09:23 AM

I obviously don't think CD has much of a chance in the Classic, but I guess I don't understand why people have to treat him like he's a pig.

He did run a good race in the Peter Pan, overcoming several obstacles to win it.........At the time, most people thought he could develop into a very nice horse. Is this colt getting worse with time or people just don't like him because he got some attention?

Danzig 10-11-2008 10:22 AM

i guess most would rather a horse earn his constant attention, both from bettors and the media, than just garner slavering praise because of who his mama happens to be. two starts, why should the horse even be a subject of discussion regarding the bcc? questioning the thought process of his handlers doesn't equate to him being treated as being a pig.

Betsy 10-11-2008 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i guess most would rather a horse earn his constant attention, both from bettors and the media, than just garner slavering praise because of who his mama happens to be. two starts, why should the horse even be a subject of discussion regarding the bcc? questioning the thought process of his handlers doesn't equate to him being treated as being a pig.


I agree - I don't have a problem with questioning his handlers. I think the constant shipping between Japan and the US is ridiculous. If they think this horse is good, IMO, they should leave him here, let him develop and point for next year's Classic.

I'm not saying that people should slobber over CD - just that now I think the trend is going the other way, that he's now apparently completely untalented.

letswastemoney 10-11-2008 01:13 PM

He's good enough to compete in this years Classic already. Whether he's good enough to win is a different story. The "point to next year's Classic" logic is boring! He's better than Smooth Air.

docicu3 10-11-2008 01:17 PM

Purple Saddle Cloths For BC.... What a surprise!!
 




Just when you were convinced that perhaps the BC was actually concerned with fans being able to watch the races and follow the position of horses during a race.........THE DREADED PURPLE SADDLE CLOTHS ARE BACK.

In another display of exactly how much disdain there remains for players as reported Friday on ATR with Byk, Rick Hammerle again belatedly made public the intentions of the BC to again 1) refuse to use colored sadlle cloths or 2) pay for state of the art Trakus as is used currently at KE and Del Mar.

Once again the races will be impossible to watch becuase you cannot distinguish one horse from another as is the case in virtually every track in the country.

"I used to get disgusted but now I try and stay amused".....

letswastemoney 10-11-2008 01:25 PM

They really aren't that bad....no one is going to mistake Zenyatta for Hystericalady. You know most of these horses.

And if it's near the finish line and your horse isn't one of the first 4 or so that you can see clearly, you've probably lost all hope anyway.

ateamstupid 10-11-2008 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
They really aren't that bad....no one is going to mistake Zenyatta for Hystericalady. You know most of these horses.

And if it's near the finish line and your horse isn't one of the first 4 or so that you can see clearly, you've probably lost all hope anyway.

There's no reason to have them all the same color. Sorry if I'd like to know where my horses are before the finish line.

Scurlogue Champ 10-11-2008 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
There's no reason to have them all the same color. Sorry if I'd like to know where my horses are before the finish line.

Look at the silks of your horse, those kind of help.


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