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GBBob 08-07-2008 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
Irridence(?) came here last year and ran her eyeballs out, to finish 2nd, it was a very good run. This is all that I know.

I have talked to two people that have seen the horse, in the flesh here, and they are in love with him and they are praying for 9/5.......They think he will be even money but I tell them 2/1 is very logical here, with Mt. Nelson and then people betting Einstein off American form

Einstein will take a lot of money...Come on..it's Million Day..If Thong or Pantys ran, he'd be 3-1 off the name alone

my miss storm cat 08-07-2008 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
Irridence(?)
Irridescence. :)

brianwspencer 08-07-2008 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CSC
Does anyone know how M. De Kock has done with NA shippers, my memory tells me he ships very infrequently to NA, I do remember he did ship one into for the Canadian International last year and that one didn't have an impact...
0-for-2

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Nice Job....real surprised that Joe didn't take the big three and give the scraps to you guys.
Nah, he totally doesn't care, he just wants it done right. He didn't even take a single ONE of the big races. Though he did keep me from Cavan Thunder in the Hatoof......play of the day.

my miss storm cat 08-07-2008 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Every Euro I've talked to over here, including a couple from the Racing Post, say the French runner isn't much. He'll need the race of his life to win this and rates below plenty of the American runners.

If you want an angle, there's not much speed at all, and he and Sudan should be able to go slowly up front.....still doubt he hangs around past the eighth pole.
The last time I can remember him looking good was in the Criterium International (... but that was in like 2006).

Don't think much of him either...

CSC 08-07-2008 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
Irridence(?) came here last year and ran her eyeballs out, to finish 2nd, it was a very good run. This is all that I know.

I have talked to two people that have seen the horse, in the flesh here, and they are in love with him and they are praying for 9/5.......They think he will be even money but I tell them 2/1 is very logical here, with Mt. Nelson and then people betting Einstein off American form
Oracle West it was, I cheated and used google, IT will probably pay me a visit for surfing at work. ;)

Scav 08-07-2008 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Nah, he totally doesn't care, he just wants it done right. He didn't even take a single ONE of the big races. Though he did keep me from Cavan Thunder in the Hatoof......play of the day.
It is a very hard race but I am zoning in at Faboulous Babe as my play, not sure what the ML is on her but I like the Douglas/Robertson combo. Also a fan of South Beach Luv....I haven't really looked at the undercard but for a couple seconds. Tonight I am tearing apart the sheets and some replays, tomorrow I am partying after work in downtown AH until who knows when, and then Saturday I am handicapping the PP's

jwkniska 08-07-2008 02:47 PM
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0-for-2



Nah, he totally doesn't care, he just wants it done right. He didn't even take a single ONE of the big races. Though he did keep me from Cavan Thunder in the Hatoof......play of the day.

She got a 2nd in the Beverly D... Irridescence
Horse was the best, but got a 2nd.

Pedigree Ann 08-08-2008 04:28 AM
[quote=smuthg]why no Red Rocks or Better Talk Now? QUOTE]

THey are both much better at 11f or 12f than at 10f. One would think that the one furlong wouldn't make that much difference, but 9-10f grass races are run differently from longer races.

brianwspencer 08-08-2008 09:16 AM
Sudan is out. Pace scenario even murkier now....

GBBob 08-08-2008 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Sudan is out. Pace scenario even murkier now....
Anyone saying why?

brianwspencer 08-08-2008 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by GBBob
Anyone saying why?
Injury, but Frankel doesn't want to talk to anyone.

I believe the most anyone has gotten out of him is four words that basically say - He's hurt. Not running.

Scav 08-08-2008 09:22 AM
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Injury, but Frankel doesn't want to talk to anyone.

I believe the most anyone has gotten out of him is four words that basically say - He's hurt. Not running.
Shea is going to put Archipenko RIGHT behind Spirit One.....Spirit One supposedly has some speed

brianwspencer 08-08-2008 09:25 AM
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Shea is going to put Archipenko RIGHT behind Spirit One.....Spirit One supposedly has some speed
He just inherited the front end, for sure.

Talked to Shea with a couple of other folks...he LOVES this horse and is even more sure than you that Archipenko wins this. He talked about how push-button he is and how the blinkers have helped him settle down a ton. Said he can put him literally wherever he wants him.

jpops757 08-08-2008 09:37 AM
Im gonna use both of Rusty Arnolds horses in multi-race bets.Gotta use the chalk too but Rustys horses look live and have a shot at a nice price.

Scav 08-08-2008 09:48 AM
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He just inherited the front end, for sure.

Talked to Shea with a couple of other folks...he LOVES this horse and is even more sure than you that Archipenko wins this. He talked about how push-button he is and how the blinkers have helped him settle down a ton. Said he can put him literally wherever he wants him.
Saturday is very simple for me

Archipenko wins - :$: :$:

Archipenko loses - :zz: :zz:

brianwspencer 08-08-2008 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Scav
Saturday is very simple for me

Archipenko wins - :$: :$:

Archipenko loses - :zz: :zz:
I can understand that.

For what it's worth, Toque de Queda looked awesome this morning. Not sure she's good enough, but she looks the part.

Scav 08-08-2008 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
I can understand that.

For what it's worth, Toque de Queda looked awesome this morning. Not sure she's good enough, but she looks the part.
are you off work this whole week?

brianwspencer 08-08-2008 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Scav
are you off work this whole week?
Yea I took off starting Tuesday so I could be out here.

I'm sleepy.

Just met Jeanine Edwards......so now I can lose every dollar tomorrow and Million week will still have been good.

Indian Charlie 08-08-2008 01:23 PM
According to the drf, the injury for Sudan is a bowed tendon.

That's if you are naive enough to believe the DRF that is!

Scav 08-08-2008 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
According to the drf, the injury for Sudan is a bowed tendon.

That's if you are naive enough to believe the DRF that is!
Arlington's website also said that.


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