Originally Posted by Scav

While I agree with you, look at the P4 yesterday at Monmouth and tell me that wasn't a missed opportunity, $900 per $1 with a 1/5, and two other horses that were until $12 (I think)

Originally Posted by Scav

While I agree with you, look at the P4 yesterday at Monmouth and tell me that wasn't a missed opportunity, $900 per $1 with a 1/5, and two other horses that were until $12 (I think)

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm being honest. It's been a massacre so far.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm being honest. It's been a massacre so far.

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Hey there are two turf sprints in the late pick 4 sequence today. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

You might be right. My X5 requires Premium Unleaded. I should factor in about $7.00 for gas. Boy am I stupid :) How come nobody on this board advised me against my strategy.

Hey at least I had fun watching the race and I don't think I lost anything. Big Brown finished strong and regardless of whether he is Travers, BCC bound or stud, he gave me a few thrills this summer.

For those of you calling him Big Crap, I think that is a little out of line. He still beat 19 horses in the KD from a post that nobody had in nearly a century. And his Preakness and FL Derby was not too shabby either.

Or maybe there is still something left in this horse.

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Big Brown finished strong?

You mean Coal Play finsished weak. Big Brown didnt pass Coal Play. Coal Play passed Big Brown as he was collapsing. Anyone who thinks BB was impressive yesterday must have watched a different race. But hey.....congrats on your tri bet....2.70 profit. Muy impressivo.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

since when is not running in a straight line and drifting out to the 10 path part of the definition of a strong finish?

Originally Posted by Danzig

no, he didn't finish strong. a front runner finally ran out of gas before the wire, benefitting big brown tremendously. talk about being in the right place at the right time.
and the gallop out many times is overrated. you do know horses never win a dime for winning the gallop out?

Originally Posted by jms62

The internet is a wonderful and funny thing. People read something and immediately jump on the bandwagon.
It is in vogue to call Big Brown's performance bad... A little due diligence provides a different story however.

Haskell 2008

1st call 46.59 (Second fastest in last 10 years)
2nd call 110.85 (5th fastest)
Final 148.31 (3rd fastest)

Come Home 37.46 (2nd fastest Not counting 2 lengths that Big Brown was behind at the half)

Beyer of 106 compares to Big Browns best...

How is this a bad performance ???

Coal Play ran the race of his life in setting the table for Cool Coal man who didn't deliver.

Originally Posted by Gander

I'm hardly a fan of Big Brown, I actually think the whole story stinks.
But I think he did very well to win this race. He could have easily given up but he grinded it out and won a 750K race. Wow, I wish I had the intuition to cheat people out of their money so I could buy a horse like this.

The Travers is coming up real weak. I dont think hes avoiding any of these cows. Its more of a timing thing and it makes total sense. Why rush a horse back to run in a glorified Grade 3 against crows hes already crushed?

Originally Posted by Gander

If Harlem Rocker runs to all the hype, he will win the Travers under a hand ride. You can forget about getting a price on him. Mambo in Seattle is the other logical horse who is the up and comer, but may be an underlay in a race crying out for a bomb. I'm glad Pletcher ran Atoned in the Haskell (and not the Travers) because if he was in the Travers, I would have taken a huge shot with him. Man, he ran terrible. Stop like he had a piano dropped on him.