Unfortuneatly I didnt write this.......it came from Justindouchenozzle. Just a reprint.

The Royal Rumble of threads.

All I know is if you are riding "the best horse you've ever ridden" and if you are so confident that all your horse has to do " is get in the starting gate" and you put the kind of ride on the steed like Desormeaux did, you are, at least in part, responsible.

Just admit you have a crush on me. You spend way, WAY too much time thinking about/remembering/commenting on things I say.

The risk/reward of quarter horsing up the rail is significant:

- Garcia could drift in just enough to prevent it.
- Da' Tara could hook-up with Big Brown, both going too fast to last.
- Big Brown could resist.

If he does get through, suddenly he's run a quarter in the low 23 range to make up the lengths and get the lead, which is quite fast for 12 furlongs, given all his other question marks.

I look at it this way -- he didn't cause the loss by any stretch of the imagination. At the same time, he didn't do the horse any favors. But given the chain of events, I'm not sure very many jockeys would have.

Travis

We are talking about a horse who was being compared to Secretariat and Seattle Slew. Do you think Slew or Secretariat could have endured an opening quarter with Da Tara, eyeball to eyeball? Its lunacy to think that the best move was taking this horse back, he should have been sent up the rail and given an opportunity to run. Maybe he doesnt get the distance, maybe he comes up short, whatever. The betting public deserved an opportunity, and so did the horse.

that horse would not of won unless it was pegasus and sprouted wings. blaming the jock is easy but what race did these folks see? i was there, the horse was uncomfortable from the start. something was definetly wrong , i don't care what they say. by the time he settled he was used up, he could not even keep up with d'tara and tale of ekati. is that the same horse we saw a few weeks ago ? it would be one thing if he lost but he did not even finish the race. and if he can't take a couple bumps or being inside horses, well he does not deserve a triple crown, its part of the game. i was suspect of this horse from day 1. yet the countless "experts" on here touted him as secretariat. whenever i hear someone say a horse can't lose, i know they don't know much, this includes dutrow. that horse went out there sore or with an empty tank, Christ could of had the mount, BB was not winning at 1 1/2 miles that day!

Travis,
My only point is that Kent didn't know the horse was going to be empty. And he certainly didn't ride as if he had the far best horse. But I doubt he had a contingency for breaking bad and out.

Who on here compared this horse to Secretariat?

Oh yeah...



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the truth. you know what i'm saying . these kids and others taking bets on if he'll win by 10. the race is a forgone conclusion and all the rest of the bs on here. which is why i had the pic 3

exactly right on. well put.

You did? I didn't see it posted in the selections thread. All I saw was the work of a professional redboarder. You picked the winners of the first two legs but absolutely no mention of Da' Tara. And really you didn't have any opinion of Big Brown until after the race.

Pretty weak stuff.

I'd say Dutrow and IEAH thought:

1/3 chance they believed he was unbeatable no matter what.
1/3 chance they thought the foot was no problem, leaving all the other kinds of reasons that led to the last 10 Derby-Preakness winners losing the race.
1/3 chance they thought they were in big trouble for reasons known and unknown to others.

Thing is, I doubt they'd have shared anything negative with the jockey. I just thought Desormeaux didn't ride like he thought he was on the far best horse.

There are some 'big names in the industry' posting here? Not as big as some of the experts that do the pre-race commentary, right?

OK.. :wf Had enough... Had to edit this thread a piece... Stay to topic and away from the personality profiling/analysis please. Those that dislike each know who they are and should be able to avoid each other.

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