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geeker2 05-29-2008 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
my feelings are dutrow is a scumbag, does drugs, and picks up hookers... i know that to be a 100% fact....
as for big brown, casino drive....ROYAL PEDIGREE.... and i belive he beats him next sat. and i will be making a large win bet on casino

Hey so does Artie Lang....

blackthroatedwind 05-29-2008 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
why ? you might not like what i said, but its true... actually, him and his pal frankel


You really need to go sit in the corner with a dunce cap on.

blackthroatedwind 05-29-2008 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
I recommend following in Dutrow's footsteps - that Casino Drive win money would be better spent on a hooker. . .

What does $2 get you in Schenectady?

hockey2315 05-29-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
What does $2 get you in Schenectady?

$2 is probably overpaying there. . . I was very close to going to college there (Union) - too bad, me and pg could've been OTB buddies.

hi_im_god 05-29-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
my feelings are dutrow is a scumbag, does drugs, and picks up hookers... i know that to be a 100% fact....
as for big brown, casino drive....ROYAL PEDIGREE.... and i belive he beats him next sat. and i will be making a large win bet on casino

if only he gambled, i'd want to be rick dutrow.

VOL JACK 05-29-2008 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

if only he gambled, i'd want to be rick dutrow.

Oh, he gambles.

geeker2 05-29-2008 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
A lot less than it used to. Not that I know.


try behind old Proctor's

hi_im_god 05-29-2008 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Oh, he gambles.

oh.

well, then if only he did drugs and picked up hookers i'd want to be him.

jcs11204 05-29-2008 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
try behind old Proctor's

lol this is funny

jcs11204 05-29-2008 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Well, for starters the race is still over a week away. A LOT can happen from now until then. I just don't get the Casino Drive thing. I could be wrong, and was wrong about Big Brown before the Derby, but if I was going to take a shot at beating Big brown, I'd want to do it with a horse that will at least offer a little value. Casino Drive will not.

its almost by default ? who else is there ? also his last was not very impressive ? i can argue that he beat more quality in his last then big brown has beat at all, i think this crop is HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE AND DID I MENTION HORRIBLE.... there are only 3 that you can even call good right now, casino, brown and harlem, and i have a feeling harlem wont like canada.

ARyan 05-29-2008 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
Hey so does Artie Lang....

Lange...

His stories are far more lengendary than Dutrow...

hi_im_god 05-29-2008 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
its almost by default ? who else is there ? also his last was not very impressive ? i can argue that he beat more quality in his last then big brown has beat at all, i think this crop is HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE AND DID I MENTION HORRIBLE.... there are only 3 that you can even call good right now, casino, brown and harlem, and i have a feeling harlem wont like canada.

what happened to the love for cowboy cal?

ARyan 05-29-2008 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
What does $2 get you in Schenectady?

Yikes...

That has far too many punch lines...

miraja2 05-29-2008 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Keep this one in mind when we are voting for Worst Thread of 2008.

While the crop of 3yos this year is down, the division you referenced here seems extremely deep and tough this year.

hi_im_god 05-29-2008 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
While the crop of 3yos this year is down, the division you referenced here seems extremely deep and tough this year.

people always want to discuss hoy in june.

we still have all the unwritten bc threads.

Rupert Pupkin 05-30-2008 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Quiet Chris
This is nonsense. SJ would have problems getting 12f no matter what. He simply was not a 12f horse. He had too many problems settling whenever he ran.

Throw in Prado riding Birdstone and you had the recipe for an upset. Just like when Prado beat War Emblem with Sarava. I am beginning to see a pattern here. We will see if Spark Candle can rattle Kent. Wouldn't be the first time. What will that make 3x Prado took down a potential triple crown. No coincidence there.

I agree that 12f was not Smarty's ideal distance. That would make it even more imperative for him to come into the race 100% to have his best shot. He didn't come into the race 100% after knocking himself out in the Preakness when he really didn't need to.

Here is a message I sent to Dunbar before the Preakness. I sent this to him the morning of the Preakness regarding Big Brown:

"Unless Big Brown regresses tremendously, he should win today. But I think the most important thing to watch for today is whether the horse is asked or not. Smarty Jones won the Preakness by about 10 lengths, but he was being asked and he was all out. It was a huge mistake on the part of Stuart Elliot. If Elliot would have taken a nice hold of the horse and cruised home by 4 lengths in hand, he would have probably won the Belmont. These horses are not machines. You don't want to squeeze the lemon dry. Desormeaux needs to leave something in the tank for the Belmont. Dutrow is pretty sharp. I think he is aware of this and will probably tell Kent to try to save something. If he is whipping and driving today, I will not like his chances in the Belmont."

Oaklawnfan 05-30-2008 03:18 AM

What I find interesting is that this time a few years ago racing fans everywhere where excited that Smarty Jones had a shot at the Triple Crown. People all over were planning "Smarty Parties" for Belmont day. John Servis was thought to be the greatest, most humble guy on earth. Everybody took Stew at face value and just hoped that he would move beyond his personal demons. They were celebrating in Hot Springs and Philly as the motorcade headed to New York. Ironically today there are no Big Brown bashes, no Dutrow ditties and we are all trying to figure out how to beat this guy. A sharp contrast to what happened a few years back with Smarty.
I want to root for BB because I would like to see a Triple Crown winner. It's just hard because getting excited for Big Brown is like kissing your sister or light beer. If he wins the Belmont, and I hope he does, I really wonder what we'll say a few years from now as we lament about the great Big Brown's run through the Triple Crown in 2008. Will we say, what a great horse with such a character for a trainer and connections that should have their own HBO weekly show?
Denis of Cork to upset. That would solve everything.

fpsoxfan 05-30-2008 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Oaklawnfan
What I find interesting is that this time a few years ago racing fans everywhere where excited that Smarty Jones had a shot at the Triple Crown. People all over were planning "Smarty Parties" for Belmont day. John Servis was thought to be the greatest, most humble guy on earth. Everybody took Stew at face value and just hoped that he would move beyond his personal demons. They were celebrating in Hot Springs and Philly as the motorcade headed to New York. Ironically today there are no Big Brown bashes, no Dutrow ditties and we are all trying to figure out how to beat this guy. A sharp contrast to what happened a few years back with Smarty.
I want to root for BB because I would like to see a Triple Crown winner. It's just hard because getting excited for Big Brown is like kissing your sister or light beer. If he wins the Belmont, and I hope he does, I really wonder what we'll say a few years from now as we lament about the great Big Brown's run through the Triple Crown in 2008. Will we say, what a great horse with such a character for a trainer and connections that should have their own HBO weekly show?
Denis of Cork to upset. That would solve everything.


Don't forget, I live in Montgomery County in upstate New York. There are guys up here who would be offended by this comment.


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