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justindew 05-20-2008 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I honestly think the confusion was, after the Zanjero and Street Sense stuff, I didn't think it was that far fetched that you would think Casino Drive was most likely. Looks like I wasn't alone.

Considering Zanjero was less than a length from winning a Grade I already, and considering the relative weakness of the handicap division, what exactly is so ridiculous about me betting the he can win a Grade I at 10-1 odds?

Trust me, I was not alone in thinking that Street Sense was done after the Preakness. There were columns written by respected turf writers that predicted the same thing.

stonegossard 05-20-2008 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew
Again, perspective.

Look a at chart of the Dow for the last 5 years. Or the last 10. Or the last 15.

So, the fact that restaurant owners are struggling means the overall economy is bad? Interesting.

Also, we feed the world, in case you didn't know. When food prices go up worldwide, we win.

Interesting logic regarding the housing market. Since a small percentage of people who bought homes that they can't afford are having to become renters (which they should have been all along) instead of owners, the overall economy is bad?

Take an Econ 101 class.


I'll take an econ class when you take your head out of your A##. Yes over a ten year period the dow has gone up genius. What does that have to do with the economy in 2008. You do know there have been periods over the last 10 yrs when it has gone down within that 10 yr period. The restaurant example was ONE thing. I can give you a ton more. All the retailers are reporting horrible results. CPI/PPI are coming in very high (Your beloved dow is down 190 points today based on disappointment from Home Depot and a hot PPI number...oil now past 129). Take a look at recession proof businesses like Las Vegas/Casinos...they are reporting the worst numbers in years. Their businesses are getting hammered because the economy is not in good shape.

We feed the world? LOL....nice try. Please explain to me how the cost of a weekly trip to the supermarket for the average family has gone up 60%. How is this good ? Here is an article form a month ago...when oil was 15 bucks a barrel cheeper/commodities were cheaper than today.....things have gotten much worse since

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04162008...ock_106752.htm

Do you think the current housing situation is good for the economy? Would love to hear that explanation Einstein. I suppose the whole CDO debacle was great for the big investment banks also?


Go back to making posts about horses you think who are a lock but really cant win.

philcski 05-20-2008 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard
I'll take an econ class when you take your head out of your A##. Yes over a ten year period the dow has gone up genius. What does that have to do with the economy in 2008. You do know there have been periods over the last 10 yrs when it has gone down within that 10 yr period. The restaurant example was ONE thing. I can give you a ton more. All the retailers are reporting horrible results. CPI/PPI are coming in very high (Your beloved dow is down 190 points today based on disappointment from Home Depot and a hot PPI number...oil now past 129). Take a look at recession proof businesses like Las Vegas/Casinos...they are reporting the worst numbers in years. Their businesses are getting hammered because the economy is not in good shape.

We feed the world? LOL....nice try. Please explain to me how the cost of a weekly trip to the supermarket for the average family has gone up 60%. How is this good ? Here is an article form a month ago...when oil was 15 bucks a barrel cheeper/commodities were cheaper than today.....things have gotten much worse since

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04162008...ock_106752.htm

Do you think the current housing situation is good for the economy? Would love to hear that explanation Einstein. I suppose the whole CDO debacle was great for the big investment banks also?


Go back to making posts about horses you think who are a lock but really cant win.

Not to mention, one of the best indicators of economic health- the old treasury long bonds- are up 13 points off their lows in the last year (and at one point in march, were up 22 points), because nobody wants to hold risky assets in this environment... but the American economy is great

SCUDSBROTHER 05-20-2008 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
The most likely winner by far is Big Brown.

I read a really hilarious post the other day. Someone said, "Now its a matter of whether or not (Big Brown) can handle Casino Drive."

Ha. It's more of a, "Can Casino Drive handle Big Brown?"

It's neither. It's who likes the surface,and 12f. That's the only that matters. If they both like it,then you can worry about who the better horse is. Usually, there is one horse in the race who likes both of those two things. People usually make fun of him(if he wasn't the favorite.) Not that many horses like this race. If Brown likes the surface, and 12f, then we will have a T.C. Winner. If he doesn't like it, then whoever does like it will get by. They don't have to be that good, either. They just have to like it.

justindew 05-20-2008 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard
I'll take an econ class when you take your head out of your A##. Yes over a ten year period the dow has gone up genius. What does that have to do with the economy in 2008. You do know there have been periods over the last 10 yrs when it has gone down within that 10 yr period. The restaurant example was ONE thing. I can give you a ton more. All the retailers are reporting horrible results. CPI/PPI are coming in very high (Your beloved dow is down 190 points today based on disappointment from Home Depot and a hot PPI number...oil now past 129). Take a look at recession proof businesses like Las Vegas/Casinos...they are reporting the worst numbers in years. Their businesses are getting hammered because the economy is not in good shape.

We feed the world? LOL....nice try. Please explain to me how the cost of a weekly trip to the supermarket for the average family has gone up 60%. How is this good ? Here is an article form a month ago...when oil was 15 bucks a barrel cheeper/commodities were cheaper than today.....things have gotten much worse since

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04162008...ock_106752.htm

Do you think the current housing situation is good for the economy? Would love to hear that explanation Einstein. I suppose the whole CDO debacle was great for the big investment banks also?


Go back to making posts about horses you think who are a lock but really cant win.

So, in your world, the economy being worse than it was last year or even 5 years ago equals a bad economy?

NO PERSPECTIVE.

MisterB 05-20-2008 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard
Take a look at recession proof businesses like Las Vegas/Casinos...they are reporting the worst numbers in years. Their businesses are getting hammered because the economy is not in good shape.

Last report I got was the casino's where 99% booked, and the casino's are the only thing making money in this economy.

:)

Why, because our dollar is weak, and vacationers from all over the world are getting great deals.

blackthroatedwind 05-20-2008 12:26 PM

I wish the mutual pools were filled with people who actually concerned themselves with whether or not different horses liked different dirt surfaces.

Of course, I wish the mutual pools were filled with a lot of the thoughts I read around here. Sadly, they aren't.

Believe it or not, the vast majority of races are won by horses that are faster than others. Jockeys, thankfully, play next to no role in the results ultimately. Horse racing is about the horses in virtually every way.

justindew 05-20-2008 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard
I'll take an econ class when you take your head out of your A##. Yes over a ten year period the dow has gone up genius. What does that have to do with the economy in 2008. You do know there have been periods over the last 10 yrs when it has gone down within that 10 yr period. The restaurant example was ONE thing. I can give you a ton more. All the retailers are reporting horrible results. CPI/PPI are coming in very high (Your beloved dow is down 190 points today based on disappointment from Home Depot and a hot PPI number...oil now past 129). Take a look at recession proof businesses like Las Vegas/Casinos...they are reporting the worst numbers in years. Their businesses are getting hammered because the economy is not in good shape.

We feed the world? LOL....nice try. Please explain to me how the cost of a weekly trip to the supermarket for the average family has gone up 60%. How is this good ? Here is an article form a month ago...when oil was 15 bucks a barrel cheeper/commodities were cheaper than today.....things have gotten much worse since

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04162008...ock_106752.htm

Do you think the current housing situation is good for the economy? Would love to hear that explanation Einstein. I suppose the whole CDO debacle was great for the big investment banks also?


Go back to making posts about horses you think who are a lock but really cant win.

Also, the media has been scaring people into thinking we are in a recession for over a year, and we have yet to have a single quarter with negative growth. We need two in a row to have a recession.

freddymo 05-20-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I wish the mutual pools were filled with people who actually concerned themselves with whether or not different horses liked different dirt surfaces.

Of course, I wish the mutual pools were filled with a lot of the thoughts I read around here. Sadly, they aren't.

Believe it or not, the vast majority of races are won by horses that are faster than others. Jockeys, thankfully, play next to no role in the results ultimately. Horse racing is about the horses in virtually every way.

jerk!!! In the middle of this fine economic think tank of posts above above I have to read this crap about racing..With all the wonderful stuff above enlightening me I should be able to retire soon.

BTW Greenspanites do you want Mad Money(Cramer) Hats so you can dress up like a real Market GURUS?

freddymo 05-20-2008 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew
Also, the media has been scaring people into thinking we are in a recession for over a year, and we have yet to have a single quarter with negative growth. We need two in a row to have a recession.

The only reason we haven't had negative growth is because of the influx of Viagra

DogsUp 05-20-2008 12:42 PM

Yes, the economy is in great shape

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayof...mom/index.html

freddymo 05-20-2008 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DogsUp

I want to adopt the dogs..Or I will buy them from her eitherway a car is no place for a dog to live.

DogsUp 05-20-2008 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
I want to adopt the dogs..Or I will buy them from her eitherway a car is no place for a dog to live.

The dogs are gorgeous. Such a sad situation. The woman living with the cats turned to her family for help and all of them turned her down - so sad.

SentToStud 05-20-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew
Also, the media has been scaring people into thinking we are in a recession for over a year, and we have yet to have a single quarter with negative growth. We need two in a row to have a recession.

Keynes would be proud. Bravo!

freddymo 05-20-2008 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DogsUp
The dogs are gorgeous. Such a sad situation. The woman living with the cats turned to her family for help and all of them turned her down - so sad.

I want the dogs will pay top dollar

Cannon Shell 05-20-2008 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Huh? Your broad generalizations are great.

Hey leave him alone...at least he is using the space bar and using commas and periods now.

Cannon Shell 05-20-2008 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DogsUp

Not for nothing but when you pay 3/4's of your income for housing you are asking for trouble.


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