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hi_im_god 04-12-2008 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Slewstoo
Top 4, as in contenders? With the exception of Colonel John, that is a very original list to say the least. Would love to see what that super would pay.

same as his colonel john-court vision exacta.

hi_im_god 04-12-2008 06:45 PM

i should post more often.

i'm pretty sure i could hit the derby winner if i made the effort.

Thunder Gulch 04-12-2008 07:04 PM

I'm baffled by Pyro's lack of a run of any sort, but if he goes to Churchill and looks good in his works, I'll use confidently and now I get a price. Anyone remember the 1995 Derby winner came out of the Bluegrass a dull 4th after winning the Florida Derby, then was dismissed at 24-1. Dull 4th isn't a no factor 10th, but on that surface, it's easy to just toss the thing out and be thankful for twice the price.

jms62 04-12-2008 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
cowboy cal could recieve.......a absoulte dream trip in the derby, right behind the major speeds. i might be making him my new top horse.

LOL.. Your new top horse until they run again next week and the week after..

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-12-2008 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
I'm baffled by Pyro's lack of a run of any sort, but if he goes to Churchill and looks good in his works, I'll use confidently and now I get a price. Anyone remember the 1995 Derby winner came out of the Bluegrass a dull 4th after winning the Florida Derby, then was dismissed at 24-1. Dull 4th isn't a no factor 10th, but on that surface, it's easy to just toss the thing out and be thankful for twice the price.

point why use him..hes going into the tc races and has enough cash..it was the right thing to do..if the race fell apart..why not..but if hes not happy..work em.........

The Indomitable DrugS 04-12-2008 08:15 PM

I don't know if anyone caught TVG.....

Frank Lyons put on a stellar display for the ages. "The way Pyro looks today, they should all be 100/1 against him!"

That was just the start of it - after that he got up on horse back and delivered more great quotes.

According to the stats in the form, Steve Asmussen trained horses have made 292 starts on a synthetic track - won 12% - and have a $2 ROI of $1.07... a mere 46.5% loss on the betting dollar.

That does include his run at Presque Isle Downs last year - where his horses ran mind-bogglingly awful all meet long.

I don't know if it's just a fluky stat with a big sample size - maybe it has something to do with shoes for all I know - but he should probably stick to the dirt.

His babies seem to run great in the 4.5 furlong synthetic races - his synthetic ROI would probably be under a buck if you take those races out.

ArlJim78 04-12-2008 08:23 PM

yeah I caught someone else, or maybe it was Lyons, who said that in the paddock Pyro reminded him of Cigar!
the pre-race accolades for Pyro were really flowing heavy.

The Indomitable DrugS 04-12-2008 08:25 PM

The Cigar comparison must have just been a warm-up,

Lyons actually compared him to Mohammed Ali at one point during that telecast.

GBBob 04-12-2008 08:44 PM

Asmussen in casual wear at Oaklawn vs w/ Pyro...

sumitas 04-12-2008 09:25 PM

Pyro just seemed to be jogging along for a workout...

jcs11204 04-12-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Pyro just seemed to be jogging along for a workout...

not really, he seemed to get a lot less then a workout.

AeWingnut 04-12-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Asmussen in casual wear at Oaklawn vs w/ Pyro...


yes exactly. as soon as I saw Assmussen at Oaklawn I knew he had no confidence.. isn't it supposed to be a dream of trainers to win the Bluegrass

other than that

I thought Z Fortune did well to finish 2nd considering his post.

am I the only one that doesn't like any horse going into the Derby :o

Scav 04-12-2008 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

am I the only one that doesn't like any horse going into the Derby :o

I can't stand any of hte horses in the derby. Maybe Tale of Ekati.

jcs11204 04-12-2008 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
yes exactly. as soon as I saw Assmussen at Oaklawn I knew he had no confidence.. isn't it supposed to be a dream of trainers to win the Bluegrass

other than that

I thought Z Fortune did well to finish 2nd considering his post.

am I the only one that doesn't like any horse going into the Derby :o

no, i like 4, but only because i have to like someone.....
steve did have something like 14 horses running at oaklawn, but you are right why not be with your big gun, for the big race ?

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-12-2008 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
The Cigar comparison must have just been a warm-up,

Lyons actually compared him to Mohammed Ali at one point during that telecast.

Here's to Frank!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snhiofL2Rh4 :D

The Indomitable DrugS 04-12-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
isn't it supposed to be a dream of trainers to win the Bluegrass

You've been watching too much TVG.

sumitas 04-12-2008 09:54 PM

could be worse plays than to box the 2 longest shots on the board for the derby :)

SniperSB23 04-12-2008 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
could be worse plays than to box the 2 longest shots on the board for the derby :)

yeah, boxing the 3 longest shots. :rolleyes:

XIIPointStables 04-13-2008 07:57 AM

It would be interesting to know what Asmussen's Poly/Dirt % is?

I thought maybe the horse would not be cranked up and in for more of a fitness effort, but 10th?

Danzig 04-13-2008 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
point why use him..hes going into the tc races and has enough cash..it was the right thing to do..if the race fell apart..why not..but if hes not happy..work em.........

just the thought process many are trying to avoid. down with the two prep system!! :D


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