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Mortimer 03-13-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
I know nothing about James other than what I see on TV. What is he about? The self-absorption argument is ridiculous. All great athletes are...that is why they are great. Tiger isn't?? Jordan wasn't?? Kobe?? Pete rose?? bonds?? Ruth??

I never called them a horrible team. You said he doesn't take kindly to criticism?? Good. I saw him eviscerated in games 1 and 2 in the Palace last year...I'm quite glad he didn't take kindly to it. I saw games 3 thorugh 6.

How many times exactly have you spoken to him?? I am sure he is self absorbed. AS I said most greats are.

LeBron is the reason they lost the finals. He was horrible. They may have won the series if he was on the bench.


Wel why don't you suck his joint,too?


He's an azzhole.


You can't see it like I can..Livingstone doesn't call him an azzhole 'cause he can't.


What are you bringing up those guys for? What does that have to do with anything?


Yuo can't name any greats who weren't selfabsorbed.....really?

Mortimer 03-13-2008 08:15 PM

Well ol' 'Bron beat Detroit all by himself...why can't he lose to San Antonio all by himself?

horseofcourse 03-13-2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
Wel why don't you suck his joint,too?


He's an azzhole.


You can't see it like I can..Livingstone doesn't call him an azzhole 'cause he can't.


What are you bringing up those guys for? What does that have to do with anything?


Yuo can't name any greats who weren't selfabsorbed.....really?

HOnestly, no I can't. I am just making rash generalizations. That's what simpletons like me do because we pale in comparison to your superior insight on this matter. It's LIvington by the way...no "e" at the end. He is simply an angry old man!! Tell me what his joint is??

horseofcourse 03-13-2008 08:18 PM

Just think Avery...only about 17 days until Jhonny steps up to the plate for his first at bat!! I am eagerly awaiting that development!!

My guess is Jhonny is not nearly good enough to be self absorbed. What do you think???

horseofcourse 03-13-2008 08:19 PM

I am eagerly awaiting the official wording of the massacre you put on me this evening?? Brain shredder or something like that??

Mortimer 03-13-2008 08:21 PM

Hank Aaron,Jesse Ownes,Marion Motley,Bill Willis, Archie Griffin,Herb Score,Austin Carr, Bill Russell,the San Antonio forward,Kevin Garnet,Joe Louis,Jose Torres, Floyd Patterson.......that's in the blink of an eye....great athletes who didn't/don't look for adoration.

Mortimer 03-13-2008 08:23 PM

No...I'm done with that stuff....I hate people praising James like they do for what they think he is; they're only sheep. If it's deserved ,then fine. Too much of it is not.






Now you see why I hate people.

horseofcourse 03-13-2008 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
Hank Aaron,Jesse Ownes,Marion Motley,Bill Willis, Archie Griffin,Herb Score,Austin Carr, Bill Russell,the San Antonio forward,Kevin Garnet,Joe Louis,Jose Torres, Floyd Patterson.......that's in the blink of an eye....great athletes who didn't/don't look for adoration.

AGain, you don't know any of them personally. I would contend all of these guys had "attitude" of some sort to become as great as they were. And again...most of these guys were 30s, 40s and 50s, 60s, 70s era athletes. Carr and Grriffin as well were not great professional athletes or even close to it. You brought up Garnett and Duncan from today.

NIke was not around to throw billions at Russell or Motley like they did for LeBron and Tiger and many today. It's nice to compare...but the worlds Jesse Owens and LeBron James were superior athletes in is just a hair different. Maybe LeBron hammers Z on the court. I don't think he does...but if you remember LeBron begged management to keep him when his contract was up and Z signed a very nice contract to stay in Cleveland. AFter the conference championship win....I saw Z make a direct bee-line to LeBron after the game and was the first person to greet him. Maybe I am imagining all this stuff from being a witness but I am pretty sure all those things happened with Z after LeBron joined the team. And I guess LeBron only wanted Z back on teh team for selfish reasons?? ONly to help him get his triple doubles I guess?? Or is there only a very remote chance that he thought with Z they may have just a hair better chance to win.

I may be off kilter on this. You give me the lowdown on what really happened here as an insider of the team.

I honestly don't know about how big an azz he is as you claim...all I really care about is on court stuff and it seems to me he greatly helps a team that says Cleveland on their jerseys...that's all I see.

Mortimer 03-13-2008 09:00 PM

You know what? You're so full of sh.it it isn't funny.





Fucl< you and Whothefucl<areThey and James. He's an embarrassment to me.You guys keep acting like the emperor is clothed.

GPK 03-13-2008 09:09 PM

when men were men and basketball was a mans game:cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULvo7__wwBU

Mortimer 03-13-2008 09:15 PM

Oh it's a sissy game built around individuals because the game is so boring.And horseoffcourse doesn't even realize what stupid things he says. I can argue with someone if they are not stupid.



The stupid should be left to play ringtoss with the frozen.

GPK 03-13-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
Oh it's a sissy game built around individuals because the game is so boring.And horseoffcourse doesn't even realize what stupid things he says. I can argue with someone if they are not stupid.



The stupid should be left to play ringtoss with the frozen.


Wasn't always that way. You know that. It USED to be a team game.

pgardn 03-13-2008 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
when men were men and basketball was a mans game:cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULvo7__wwBU

I'm tellin Barkely.
Or Tyler H.

Dont know why Morton hates the Lebron
with such a passion. Do know why DaHoss
should be renamed DaHoser.

GPK 03-13-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
I'm tellin Barkely.
Or Tyler H.

Dont know why Morton hates the Lebron
with such a passion. Do know why DaHoss
should be renamed DaHoser.


I just put Bird up because he was my favorite. There were many others from that generation that knew game, understood the game and played the game hard...everynight. These kids today in the NBA are punks. Buncha damn sissys.


Did my eyes deceive me...or was that a Jack Sikma sighting early on in the video I posted??:eek:

GPK 03-13-2008 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
I just put Bird up because he was my favorite. There were many others from that generation that knew game, understood the game and played the game hard...everynight. These kids today in the NBA are punks. Buncha damn sissys.


Did my eyes deceive me...or was that a Jack Sikma sighting early on in the video I posted??:eek:


It was Sik!!! 1:20 into the video

pgardn 03-13-2008 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
It was Sik!!! 1:20 into the video

His kid plays at some College on the West Coast.
Pacific maybe...nope. Cant find him.
Portland.
Luke Sikman 6' 8" Freshman Forward 215
The mighty Portland Pilots.
Leads the team in rebounds.

Long time.
One of the most funky/accurate set/jump shots
I have ever seen.

GPK 03-13-2008 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
His kid plays at some College on the West Coast.
Pacific maybe...

Long time.
One of the most funky/accurate set/jump shots
I have ever seen.


We have this conversation all the time Pat. I used to LOVE the game of basketball, but I just can't bring myself to watch it anymore.

My uncle was a coach for 40 years...I could sit and listen to him talk about it for hours.

Mortimer 03-13-2008 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
Wasn't always that way. You know that. It USED to be a team game.


This is true.

Mortimer 03-13-2008 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
I'm tellin Barkely.
Or Tyler H.

Dont know why Morton hates the Lebron
with such a passion. Do know why DaHoss
should be renamed DaHoser.


Don't know why the fucl< your head is always up your azz.

pgardn 03-13-2008 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
Don't know why the fucl< your head is always up your azz.

Wow.
I toss a flower petal,
you hit me with sledge hammer.

OUChers.


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