Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Curlin is an absolute cinch in the World Cup.

The real two questions are how will he come back? - and how will he take to the synthetic tracks?

To me, the only thing standing in the way of him being defeated again are those two obstacles.

I don't see a War Pass developing enough to be good enough to beat him - it would really take WP developing much better than I expect, getting an uncontested lead, and perhaps even needing a real speed friendly racetrack to have a shot at holding him off.

Pyro is a fine animal - I have doubts he will develop enough to beat Curlin for sure. Unlike War Pass - Pyro will never EVER have a chance to win a misleading circumstancial race over Curlin ... while War Pass has the correct style to steal something.

With WP and Pyro being 3-year-olds, and with so many different routes to take in there divisons - I doubt they ever meet up with Curlin on a natural dirt track anyway.

Originally Posted by Scav

Daytona will be 7/5 or 6/5 in this race. Proudinsky should take some cash

I am definitely not a ML guy but i will give it a shot

1: Buffalo Man - 10/1
2: Yate's Black Cat - 15/1
3: Brilliant - 6/1
4: Jazz Quest - 10/1
5: Elusive Fort - 15/1
6: French Beret - 20/1
7: Fracas - 12/1
8: Proudinsky - 4/1
9: Twilight Meteor - 12/1
10: Daytona - 7/5

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i would guess j be k is going to run good, especially with kent

Originally Posted by jcs11204

buffalo man is the play of the day, i will be using him in every bet, hes a very nice horse

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

i hope alot of people think yankee bravo has no chance......

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

No chance is maybe a little much but he is probably about as unlikely a competitor as exists in this race.

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i think your giving curlin way way to much love, the world cup is going to be a hard race, and if he wins it, i doubt we will see him in this country again.
well armed

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Well Armed was a nice 9th beaten about 27 lengths behind Discreet Cat and Invasor the last time he was over there.

I'm sure those synthetic track wins make him eligible to give Curlin a huge scare.

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

i hope alot of people think yankee bravo has no chance......

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He - like the great Dynever - vanished after his Dubai race. They claimed both he and his undefeated at the time Group 1 stablemate Gold For Sale were both drugged in that race.

However, that quote came from Ian Jory - who trained both SB and GFS - so it should be taken with a grain of salt.

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I'm sure Dynever, whatever he is doing, is doing it second best.

Originally Posted by Scav

It don't matter with who is going with him because Solis is going to try and fight this horse. He tried in his other races. Solis is not an open up on the backstretch jock. Smith just let this horse break and do what he wanted, and then he grabbed him at the end of the 1st turn.

If Smith was on this horse, the 6/5 would be justified and the horse probably wouldn't lose, but for some reason he bailed, and he isn't at Bay Meadows so obviously something is hot on Saturday at Santa Anita for him to pass this mount.

Back to Indian Blessing, do you say she won't lose because there is no pace or because she is that much better then Proud Spell. Proud Spell was off a ~100 day layoff and finished pretty well(in front a couple jumps after the wire). Jones is 26% 2nd off the layoff with two good works coming, all at FG, where IB had to ship in, then ship back out, and now ship back to FG. I'd like to know Baffert's numbers with this 3rd start off the layoff horses. He really has his horses cranked first out (maiden's and off the layoff) and I might be wrong but alot of them tail off until the next layoff. Gomez really rode IB down the lane, alot harder then I realized. I don't think IB has a turn off button, if she did, then I would be agreeing 100% with her lockness. Now, I am obviously not touting what will be a 8/5 shot, into a horse that will be 3/5 or 2/5 but I still think she isn't a lock, given her last performance was not that impressive.

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I think it would be foolish to try and beat Daytona just off what you think Alex Solis is going to do. He's actually not riding that bad at the moment and this horse is on form and looks like he'll be alone on the lead again.

Originally Posted by jcs11204

Is he sitting on a huge year ? I think so....
but i have a thing for him, had one of my biggest scores of the saratoga seasson with him in a allowance race, then had him in a straight exacta in the travers.