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asudevil 03-01-2008 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
Anyone care to take on the task of explaining what Mr Pino was thinking in the 8th at Aqueduct yesterday (Feb 18)? He must've been watching the series premiere of KNIGHT RIDER (which might be off the air before the Gotham, that is how bad it was) the night before and thought he was driving KITT because the only way he was going to win from where he put that horse was to hit Turbo Boost and go over them. How does he not angle out at the 1/16 pole once clear of the horse to his outside?

Did today change your mind?

Cajungator26 03-01-2008 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil
Did today change your mind?

I had a feeling someone was going to bring this up. :D

asudevil 03-01-2008 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
What happened today that would change his mind?

5 Lee Stewart Pino M G 123 6.90 4.20 2.90

9 A J Kids Pino M G 120 22.60 11.60 8.70

1 Malibu Moonshine Pino M G 115 31.60 10.20

The Bid 03-01-2008 10:20 PM

Pinheads are only as good as the last ride they give. Hes fine for the night, he will resume being a goat around 1pm tomorrow.

blackthroatedwind 03-01-2008 10:21 PM

He rode them fine.....two were the best in bad fields and one got a great set up. He didn't do anything remarkable with any of them.....just as he hasn't done nearly as much wrong as some seem to think.....at least in my opinion. Being the second best rider at Aqueduct right now isn't a lot to be excited about.

Frankly, Pino is what most of these guys aren't....a professional jockey. I say this as a compliment. He doesn't get left a majority of the time ( see Rajiv Maragh ), he tries to save ground when possible ( unlike Norberto Arroyo among others ) and he displays a reasonable sense of patience. He rates to win, like today, when given the opportunity.

asudevil 03-01-2008 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
So? Pino can ride alright, no one really said he can't. Certainly a lot of chest thumping here today. The thread was talking about a specific ride, not every single ride.

One ride??? The call was him for him to leave the state....There's no difference between the Aqueduct inner and Laurel, none!

Coach Pants 03-01-2008 10:27 PM

Speaking of chest thumping...

I thought Taylor Hole's ride on Wayoutsidethebox was solid. He didn't panic and just let the horse run his race. A novel concept these days.

The Bid 03-01-2008 10:28 PM

Norberto is a Kamikaze.

VOL JACK 03-01-2008 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Norberto is a Kamikaze.


Love watching him and Coa hook up. They just need swords and shields.

The Bid 03-01-2008 10:38 PM

Its like Medieval Times with wagering

NoLuvForPletch 03-02-2008 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by asudevil
Did today change your mind?

Okay, he can stay. Is that what you wanted me to say?

But seriously, I'm pretty sure ANYBODY would have won the Stymie today aboard Malibu Moonshine. The horse was too slow to keep up and can run 2 miles if he wanted to. The other two horse were done after 3/4's. I thought he'd win by 10 when they turned for home. You can't seriously think that ride was some kind of genius on his part?

And by the way, in case you didn't see the races, his ride on AJ Kids was a thing of beauty, being 6 wide on the turn. If he got caught I'm sure you wouldn't be asking me these questions.

And he almost got taken down on Lee Stewart with some savy left handed whip action nearing the wire as his horse drifted out pretty good.

blackthroatedwind 03-02-2008 09:33 AM

He wasn't six wide on the turn with AJ's Kids. He was two wide for most of the turn and angled four wide late on the turn and was forced/bumped out wider into the stretch. I thought he rode that horse fine.

I also think he should have been DQ'd in the first race.

NoLuvForPletch 03-02-2008 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
He wasn't six wide on the turn with AJ's Kids. He was two wide for most of the turn and angled four wide late on the turn and was forced/bumped out wider into the stretch. I thought he rode that horse fine.

I also think he should have been DQ'd in the first race.

Don't really want to argue with YOU, but he looks like he's about 5 wide when they get to the 5/16ths pole, then gets bumped wider as they approach the quarter pole. Of course, I'm not in a blimp over top of them so there is really no way to see.

He won, so it's really a non issue I guess...

PSH 03-02-2008 10:45 AM

Agree on Pino Race 1 Saturday
 
I also think he should have been DQ'd in the first race.[/quote]

I could not believe they kept him up and there was also no inquiry by the stewarts. Jockey claim of foul and they kept him up. Glad they did as it did help me out in the DD....

Makes you wonder how they keep a horse like that up and take down some of the ones that they do...

asudevil 03-02-2008 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
My gut tells me the call was made in jest, but whatever. While Aqueduct is a joke right now, there is a big difference between Aqueduct and Laurel. As BTW just said, Pino is a pro and a pro understands how to ride a track that can be very biased like the Aqueduct Inner. Day in and day out he is probably making the second fewest mistakes out there right now after Dominguez. he's riding for some winning barns (Contessa, Jacobson) and he knows his way to the winners circle. He would have a hard time riding in NY after the winter though.

Agree with the fact that he would have a hard time come spring....Look, he's a hard working, "bring the lunch-box to work" type jock. He's been doing the same thing in MD/DE day in and day out for about 25 years....Outside of Dominguez, there's no real star quality at the meet.

blackthroatedwind 03-02-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil
Outside of Dominguez, there's no real star quality at the meet.

Funny, I noticed that as well.

NoLuvForPletch 03-05-2008 01:05 PM

Okay, he has to pack up and leave now...

Did he have a wager on Levine's horse in the 3rd today? He spent an awful long time looking for him after strangling the crap out of Ain't No Saint.

What in the PP's gave him the notion that he should be pressing the pace with this horse?

And once he was commited, just go...


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