Kent's just the guy I want standing up at the 1/16 pole.

He's a joke because he fills his barn with cute exercise riders? When did the backside turn into an episode of Queer Eye?

Yeah, they really stuck it to him......he only won the Kentucky Derby four times, the Preakness five times and the Belmont Stakes four times. Not to mention his 17 BC wins.

Can you imagine what he would have done if the Gods weren't sticking it to him?

c'mon now btw. don't let facts get in the way of emotion.

I don't know him at all. I do, however, know that he has left an indelible mark of accomplishment in this game. For you to suggest that because he didn't have a TC winner he in some way failed is beyond absurd.

The man's accomplishments are simply incredible. He is certainly closer to being immortal than Billy Turner.

I'm sorry.....being a good exercise rider is now mutually exclusive to being a cute girl?

That absurd opinion must work well for you.

i heard he used a long whip on azeri in training.

I'm ashamed to say that I haven't.

So if a girl is cute then she's automatically not a good exercise rider? Hmm. Hey stop bogartin and puff puff pass.

What makes you think D. Wayne hasn't been in Chuck's barn? Hmm?

"Pletcher had a horse that earned more than the Lukas barn made all year."

that's because he learned to train from a good teacher, unlike this scumbag.

I've seen more than enough of him to know his salesmanship skills greatly exceed his ability to get the best out of the stock he gets.

His accomplishments are incredible because they underline how many obscenely wealthy horse owners lack the ability to place their stock with the correct trainer.

Lukas has often shocked the racing world with his big, unexpected wins. Most either love or hate the man because of his shocking wins. He shocked me in the Jim Dandy when Scorpion wired Free Of Love at the wire. I had FOL in a number of winning combinations only to be shocked by Scorpion. Lukas beat me again, this time for quite a few bucks, I thought leaving the track.

Click on this picture as Lukas was shocking Saratoga. Congaree hung on for 3rd saving tons of bridgejumpers.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/free+of+love
FOL is on the rail, Scorpion foreground.

POINTGIVEN!!!!!!.......Happy Holiday's to you and your family the board has never been the same since you left for Pace......may your tree and stockings be thickly lined and overflowingly filled with mountains of chalk surpassed only by the future bountiful gifts of equine wisdom you bestow on us all.

If you use drugs as a reason for why he shouldnt be in the hall of fame then Pat Day, PVal and several other riders shouldnt be in the hall of fame either. Antley was prob one of the best jocks I have ever seen when it comes to pure talent and deserves to be in the hall of fame.

Drugs.....the most difficult part of evaluating a guy like DWayne and the rest of the big names is the lack of a stat or index that incorporates....

"Racing Productivity/Money Spent on Developing Talent"

Assuming that the vast majority of what the big training outfits work with is young horse flesh purchased by deep pockets who then take the raw product and ask a guy like DWayne, TP, Kiran etc to then develop these insanely expensive babies into champions if not successful stakes horses for eventual breeding themselves. A glorified ROI for $$ invested vs whats earned by the horse from the track and then the reproductive career. I am not aware of any but do you think there are trainers who do well from this angle of figuring an index or stat for what a trainer produces or money returned via earnings over several years (because I would imagine that a yearly index would be impossible to interpret since the on track earning potential isn't a one year stat as 2 year olds do not have the opportunities to earn that 3 and older have)......

And even if this data did make sense as an index for a trainer are you not better off using a trainer who does more with lesser numbers of horses or the comparasion between guys like Asmusen and say Nafzger. If your going to spend several hundred thousand on a yearling do you do better with the factory or big chain approach or the "mom and pop" smaller guy who may have trained 10 horses a year but they all get individual attention from the true name trainer.......yes I must consider decaff!!!

I wouldn't say he appeared insensitive, moreso, disappointed.