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Exterminator 01-20-2008 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Welcome to the forum and yeah, you're right, but keep in mind they said American "contender". :)

Thank you someone's Miss Storm Cat, glad to be here.

I'm sorry. Not sure I understand the difference. :confused:

Exterminator 01-20-2008 02:32 AM

Oh. I guess you mean cause he's raced in the US and has an American trainer?

Unless he's officially changed his citizenship, I still don't buy it!

my miss storm cat 01-20-2008 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Exterminator
Oh. I guess you mean cause he's raced in the US and has an American trainer?

Unless he's officially changed his citizenship, I still don't buy it!

I can understand that sentiment but it's like do you consider Silent Witness a HK horse.....

Exterminator 01-20-2008 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
I can understand that sentiment but it's like do you consider Silent Witness a HK horse.....

Are you saying he won run in Canada anymore? Is he officially based in the US now?

I always considered SW an Australian horse racing in HK and Japan.

my miss storm cat 01-20-2008 03:04 AM

I guess it's an easy mistake for someone in the UAE to assume he's an American horse.

That's all I'm saying.

I know he's Canadian.....

magic_idol 01-20-2008 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Exterminator
Are you saying he won run in Canada anymore? Is he officially based in the US now?

I always considered SW an Australian horse racing in HK and Japan.


Sorry my fav Miss:( ,I have to agree with E & say i concider where the horse is foaled as to be what Nat it is.
Except of course Might & Power & Sunline as Everyone knows They are Aussie Horses;)

my miss storm cat 01-20-2008 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by magic_idol
Sorry my fav Miss:( ,I have to agree with E & say i concider where the horse is foaled as to be what Nat it is.
Except of course Might & Power & Sunline as Everyone knows They are Aussie Horses;)

Don't be sorry, Magic man..... I can understand that!

If i read that Salaam Dubai or Thajja are running at Nad Al Sheba, i don't think twice about where they're from..... to me they're UAE kids and my only point is that whoever wrote the piece made an assumption.

We all know horsies from where you're from rule. Why do you think HK is so great? :p

Exterminator 01-20-2008 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
I guess it's an easy mistake for someone in the UAE to assume he's an American horse.

That's all I'm saying.

I know he's Canadian but i guess it's an easy assumption.

Oh. I see. But now that I think of it he didn't run much up in Canada. The classics sure, but not much else that I can recall. Not trying to badger you, just trying to understand. Thanks. :)

Exterminator 01-20-2008 03:17 AM

Sorry, I've also been a little choked to see Manduro as a French horse so much lately.

my miss storm cat 01-20-2008 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Exterminator
Sorry, I've also been a little choked to see Manduro as a French horse so much lately.

Where was he from?

Exterminator 01-20-2008 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Where was he from?

Bred in Germany by Monsun.

Question. Does any one know if he was the first German bred to have the highest rating of the year?

NoChanceToDance 01-20-2008 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Exterminator
Bred in Germany by Monsun.

Question. Does any one know if he was the first German bred to have the highest rating of the year?

I can imagine he probably is.

I know what you're all saying about where a horse is 'from'. It's a difficult argument. Over here we have plenty of horses bred in America, but if they happened to go back to America and race (for the English trainer), I know I'd refer to the horse as being an English horse.

Both ways work, I suppose.

brockguy 01-20-2008 09:24 AM

cant wait to see Seachange race in Dubai.. She is a class horse.. Can she do what Sunline failed to do??

Exterminator 01-20-2008 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
I can imagine he probably is.

I know what you're all saying about where a horse is 'from'. It's a difficult argument. Over here we have plenty of horses bred in America, but if they happened to go back to America and race (for the English trainer), I know I'd refer to the horse as being an English horse.

Both ways work, I suppose.

Not sure I buy that. If Secretariat was sold at age 4 and moved to France, raced there and came back to the US in the same year, can you imagine him being called a French horse? That would be cause for a riot with hardcore hr fans. The most I can see would be "French-owned and/or trained" imo

NoChanceToDance 01-21-2008 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Exterminator
Not sure I buy that. If Secretariat was sold at age 4 and moved to France, raced there and came back to the US in the same year, can you imagine him being called a French horse? That would be cause for a riot with hardcore hr fans. The most I can see would be "French-owned and/or trained" imo

I didn't mean at that sort of age. I was referring to the American bred horses who are sold as yearlings to race in Europe and then go back to America to run a big race (say at the Breeders' Cup). To me (and most people) they are referred to as the European challengers, despite which country they were born.

If a horse has run previously in America and then is sold to race in a different country, that changes things.

It's a difficult argument.

NoChanceToDance 01-21-2008 06:20 AM

It's the same with Bullish Luck, I know almost everyone would call him a Hong Kong horse.

NoChanceToDance 01-24-2008 05:52 PM

From Racing Post......

Argentina's World Cup hope Latency arrives in UAE



by Nicholas Godfrey
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ARGENTINA's Dubai World Cup hope Latency has arrived in the UAE after an arduous journey from Buenos Aires.

The seven-time Grade 1 winner is set to run in the third round of the Maktoum Challenge on the Super Thursday card on March 6 as a prep racefor the world's richest race, for which he is a 25-1 chance.

Latency's trip to Dubai included stops in Paris (for four days) and two long flights, with the first (Buenos Aires – Sao Paulo – Paris) taking 20 hours and the shortest one (Paris – Dubai) taking ten hours.

Owner Nicolas Fernandez Aramburu said: “His personal veterinarian reported to us that he never showed any signs of fatigue nor did he stop eating regularly, just as if he were in our yard at San Isidro.

“Latency carries the hopes ofa nation, and we hope he can become a legend for us in Dubai.”
Dubai officials have acted quickly to prevent red tape scuppering New Zealand star Seachange's visit to the Dubai carnival.

According to the NZ Herald , the mare's owners were shocked to discover that Dubai has no protocol for visiting horses from New Zealand, which meant the horse could not travel directly to the carnival from the country.

The usual alternative of shipping from Australia is also out of bounds owing to equine influenza.

However, according to Dubai official Martin Talty, there won't be any problem. ”She is booked on a flight on February 17,” he said. “There was a problem with import/export but it is sorted out now,”

Seachange landed her latest Group 1 win in Saturday's Telegraph Handicap, despite the race being run over an inadequate-looking 6f trip.

my miss storm cat 02-01-2008 06:12 PM

Benny to the Golden Shaheen, Awesome Gem now possible for the World Cup instead of the Godolphin Mile.....

my miss storm cat 02-03-2008 09:18 AM

Hong Kong Raiders..... Bullish Luck *, Bullish Cash, Tiger Prawn.

Spring at Last now possible for the Cup instead, Monterey Jazz possible for the Godolphin Mile.

* Very mixed feelings about this.....

my miss storm cat 02-03-2008 10:23 PM

UAE.....

Feel better!


Kelly’s Landing has ‘setback,’ racing plans unclear

Although 2007 Dubai Golden Shaheen (Gr.1) winner Kelly’s Landing has been pointed toward a defense of his title as the world’s best sprinter on a straightaway dirt track, trainer Eddie Kenneally has revealed the big gelding is not progressing as hoped.

“He’s had a little setback and will need more time,” Kenneally said when asked about his original intention to give the seven-year-old son of Patton a prep race at Gulfstream Park. Last year, Kelly’s Landing ran twice at Gulfstream, winning the Mr. Prospector Handicap (Gr.3), before his Dubai Golden Shaheen victory under Frankie Dettori.

Kelly’s Landing’s most recent timed workout was on December 30, and Kenneally did not give any indication as to when he might resume serious training and be ready to race again.

Following his Dubai performance, Kelly’s Landing has competed only once more, a fifth-placed effort over a sloppy Monmouth Park track in the Breeders’ Cup Sprint (Gr.1). Owned by Summerplace Farm, Kelly’s Landing has won nine of 22 starts and has earned US$1,805,557.


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