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NoChanceToDance 10-27-2007 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i'd imagine they all feel pretty dammed low. there was a small article in bloodhorse about a lady who's spent all her time working with horses. she worked pine island, and said losing her almost put her out of the sport. you get so attached to them.

Yeah. It hits the grooms hard. My father was a groom for many, many years and i will never forget the day he come home in floods of tears after one of his horses had a heart attack on the gallops underneath him. They grow so attached to these horses, and the horses get attached to them.

I remember watching the Epsom Derby and seeing it. My phone was ringing within seconds. She was in bits. She has learnt the hard way that it happens. I don't know the groom of George personally, but if it's who i think it is, he is a really nice man, always smiling and sharing a few jokes. I feel so sorry for him right now.

People will send their prayers to coolmore and the breeders, but it's the grooms who come off worst.

I really wouldn't want to be on their plane home in the next few days. That is going to seem like forever crossing the Atlantic.

Danzig 10-27-2007 05:58 PM

well, tell them a lady in mid america feels very badly for them and that she's very sorry, and to hang in there.

The Bid 10-27-2007 06:05 PM

Are you directing that towards me Danzig

Danzig 10-27-2007 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Are you directing that towards me Danzig

directing what? the hang in there part above, or a previous post?

pdrift1 10-27-2007 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
not sure why, but as soon as they said something was wrong, i felt that it was george. a beauty and full of talent. star crossed for sure. my condolences to the jacksons, coolmore and aob, and anyone else touched by this horse in his all too brief time. it's always those behind the scenes who take it hardest, the groom, the exercise rider....i was hoping he would do well today, for danehill if nothing else.
what a rotten ending to a rotten race.

i agree -rotten ending to a rotten race RIP GW:(

TBJUNKY 10-27-2007 06:36 PM

Coolmore's vet requested that the owners could have GW's head, heart, and horseshoes to bury............I know they got his shoes, but nor sure about the other two

Danzig 10-27-2007 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TBJUNKY
Coolmore's vet requested that the owners could have GW's head, heart, and horseshoes to bury............I know they got his shoes, but nor sure about the other two

they'll get them, no doubt. probably cremate the remains to inter as well.

onebadbeast 10-27-2007 06:41 PM

I Think It Was Disgusting To Try To Get The Last Drop Out Of This Poor Horse. Shame On The Game!

Danzig 10-27-2007 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by onebadbeast
I Think It Was Disgusting To Try To Get The Last Drop Out Of This Poor Horse. Shame On The Game!

i think that 14 starts does not a last drop nor poor horse make. had he not been lost, this convo doesn't even happen. ridiculous bit of hysteria from those who are appalled and amazed that someone would dare race a racehorse. at four even! the NERVE.

gimmeabreak.

pmayjr 10-27-2007 07:07 PM

R.I.P. Gorgeous. You gave some good memories, and you should've shown Kip D. what was up in the Mile instead, but R.I.P.

Merlinsky 10-27-2007 08:56 PM

Do we know the names of the mares that got in foal to George?

Bobby Fischer 10-27-2007 09:50 PM

they tried to run a turf horse 10 furlongs in the mud.

Danzig 10-27-2007 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by merasmag
couldn't understand why he was in this but didn't think it would come to this...i am afraid to watch the replay but i think i have to...i am bummed, i heard over the otb shouting that someone was in a van but it didn't sound that serious...i really hope he didn't suffer as much as i am imagining

the race showed him next to last, but you never see ( on the tv coverage of the race) him actually take a bad step or anything. he's out of the pic when it all happened.
as to suffering, i doubt it. horses are so up on adrenaline, they don't feel pain immediately. he was euthanized so quickly, i doubt he felt much discomfort.

as to why you'd 'have to' watch the replay, i can't imagine...

Danzig 10-27-2007 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
they tried to run a turf horse 10 furlongs in the mud.

happens fairly often, as not all turfers scratch when a race goes to the main track. and of course a turf race only moves if conditions warrant--rain being the culprit.

GenuineRisk 10-27-2007 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by merasmag
i have to watch it cause i wanna see wtf happened to lron... i know i saw bumping and now i need to know if it was him or gw

Mera, I think GW took a bad step- it was just one of those awful things that happen sometimes. I don't think he was ever in a spot where it could have been caused by contact.

Thank goodness ESPN didn't show and reshow the moment. I thought they handled it pretty well.

richard burch 10-27-2007 11:34 PM

you said it right...
 
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Originally Posted by sumitas
get real. he was retired and Coolemore's greed makes them wring every last dime out of the horse. he's a turf horse and they bring him over here to run in the slop ? shame on Coolemore.


finally...

hockey2315 10-28-2007 12:32 AM

I am SO mad right now. . . Those greedy #$@%^ had no business racing George at all this year after he was retired and came back so dull. . . This just shows how backwards the industry has gotten with the whole racing to breed/breeding to race thing. They took a very promising horse out of racing in his prime in Holy Roman Emperor just so they could suck some money out of somewhere. Then since George wasn't worth anything in the shed anymore they decided to try to squeeze a few more bucks out of him on the track. What was the point of even running him in the Classic where he clearly had no shot?! Not to help his stud fee. . . Not to do right by the horse. . . And is Kinane really that clueless that he rode GW hard the whole race when something was clearly wrong? Must have been that fifth place money. . . My friend, who's more of a casual fan, said to me after the races something to the effect of "I can't wait to see these horses race next time" to which I replied; "You won't." How is the sport supposed to attract fans when the big stars never last for more than a year?


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