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Sightseek 09-27-2007 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Only if you take it out of context.

You acted as though you handicapped the race and couldn't make a case for a mid-priced horse. I am suggesting that I am looking forward to betting against an odds-on favorite who has dressed up form. Two very different scenerios.
Is this taking into consideration just how bad the Distaff division is? Possibles for the race are; Balance, Indian Vale, Miss Shop, Mo Cuishle, and Unbridled Belle.

blackthroatedwind 09-27-2007 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
How did I act as if anything? The odds of the horses in the races played no factor in what I said. And u trying to make it seem like u were talking only about betting against her is very weak. U were very clear in your analysis, saying she was hopeless here. The scenarios are the same. U know Ginger Punch and u know what's likely to be in the race against her and u don't like her chances. Same with me and Fabulous Strike in the Vosburgh.

It's a semantics discussion.

King Glorious 09-27-2007 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Personally, I think one of the worst things anyone can do is form a strong opinion without reviewing the pps after the draw. I understand we all have our own personal biases, but deciding against a horse, without objectively seeing the race on paper, is a certain road to losing.

I understand the criticisms of Fabulous Strike, and don't even necessarily disagree, but to me, it is impossible to have an informed and definitive opinion over a day before the race is even drawn. At least as far as potential contenders are concerned.

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At least the Beldame is a good betting race with Ginger Punch the likely favorite. She's pretty hopeless in there.
Are we all allowed to use both sides of our mouths or only u Master?

blackthroatedwind 09-27-2007 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Is this taking into consideration just how bad the Distaff division is? Possibles for the race are; Balance, Indian Vale, Miss Shop, Mo Cuishle, and Unbridled Belle.
Balance and Indian Vale, and even Unbridled Belle, are considerably better than the field for the Ruffian. I suppose Ginger Punch can win but I have certainly been looking forward to a reasonable spot to bet against her. As things stand now this looks like it. But, you never know.

Obviously she's a horse who has built a reputation that I don't think is justified. Maybe when I look at the pps I will feel differently.

King Glorious 09-27-2007 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Balance and Indian Vale, and even Unbridled Belle, are considerably better than the field for the Ruffian. I suppose Ginger Punch can win but I have certainly been looking forward to a reasonable spot to bet against her. As things stand now this looks like it. But, you never know.

Obviously she's a horse who has built a reputation that I don't think is justified. Maybe when I look at the pps I will feel differently.
Haven't seen a backslide like that since Michael Jackson moonwalked during the Motown 25 celebration show.:D

I would like to say that I totally agree with u on Ginger Punch. I've been waiting and waiting for the bubble to burst on this one.

pdrift1 09-27-2007 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
always the go-to when anyone mentioned perfect drift in anything other than a favorable way.
you said a mouthful !!!!!! and you are spot on. what comes around goes around. if your going to dish it learn to suck it up

blackthroatedwind 09-27-2007 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Are we all allowed to use both sides of our mouths or only u Master?
Your constant use of the term " master " is as lame as if I constantly called you stupid. It's beneath you...and you know it.

Once again, while I understand the similarities, I think they are two different situations. I am looking to beat a strong favorite who I think is overrated based on names of races and not actual performances.

blackthroatedwind 09-27-2007 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Haven't seen a backslide like that since Michael Jackson moonwalked during the Motown 25 celebration show.:D

I would like to say that I totally agree with u on Ginger Punch. I've been waiting and waiting for the bubble to burst on this one.

Sorry that in an effort to defend yourself you can't see the difference between what I said earlier and my thinking a vulnerable odds-on favorite makes for " a good betting race. "

blackthroatedwind 09-27-2007 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
So should will all stop calling you master?

I thought that was DrugS.

Danzig 09-27-2007 04:06 PM
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So should will all stop calling you master?

handicap races i will...

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SniperSB23 09-27-2007 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Is this taking into consideration just how bad the Distaff division is? Possibles for the race are; Balance, Indian Vale, Miss Shop, Mo Cuishle, and Unbridled Belle.
I don't need PPs to know I'll be playing Unbridled Belle. Otherwise she might eat me.

Coach Pants 09-27-2007 05:48 PM
I'm going to wait until Purina posts her picks before I decide.

hockey2315 09-27-2007 06:29 PM
Andy-

Will you be doing a youbet show for this weekend? I always enjoy them . . .

blackthroatedwind 09-27-2007 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hockey2315
Andy-

Will you be doing a youbet show for this weekend? I always enjoy them . . .
Yes, but since the big races aren't until Sunday we are filming tomorrow night and it won't be up until around noon on Saturday. I'll still try to talk a little about Saturday but I'm going to focus on Belmont Sunday.

hockey2315 09-27-2007 06:56 PM
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Yes, but since the big races aren't until Sunday we are filming tomorrow night and it won't be up until around noon on Saturday. I'll still try to talk a little about Saturday but I'm going to focus on Belmont Sunday.
Sounds good. . . Thanks!

Honu 09-27-2007 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
All the hating on EC.

Id love to own a horse that "isn't much" and has earned the $$ he has.

Hes not a Euro quality turf horse by anymeans...but his record here in America speaks for itself.
He was great in the million in 2006:D :p

geeker2 09-27-2007 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
I'm going to wait until Purina posts her picks before I decide.
LOL..that was a good one!

Benny Leger 09-27-2007 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
always the go-to when anyone mentioned perfect drift in anything other than a favorable way.

Perfect Drift is a warrior. He runs his guts out every time the gate opens. One has to respect that trait.


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