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stonegossard 09-25-2007 06:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Doug
Pennsylvania

Pete

Retama Park.

eajinabi 09-25-2007 06:53 PM
Max

Houston,Tx

deltagulf 09-25-2007 07:31 PM
donald

louisiana

ALostTexan 09-25-2007 07:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Lori

Florida


When I was at the U of A it was already hard enough to bet the pony's. Stupid simulcast schedule. This is unreal though and will hurt the racing business in Arizona.
This is why I am even more pissed off about this law. I work during the day and with classes added to that schedule I cannot make it to the OTB's until late afternoon/early evening. But the simulcast schedule at Famous Sam's, The Old Father Inn, and everywhere else it very, very limited due to the dog tracks. Lori knows this as well as I do. Totally sucks.

Did make a few phone calls and there are a couple of groups that have a great deal more power and money than us on the board that are already getting involved in the fight...

blackthroatedwind 09-25-2007 08:41 PM
Just curious......is the Lottery legal in Arizona?

If so, that would qualify as hypocritical....no?

paisjpq 09-25-2007 08:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Just curious......is the Lottery legal in Arizona?

If so, that would qualify as hypocritical....no?
that would make them like VT...where the lotto and powerball are big business but wagering on horses through almost all outlets is prohibited.

NTamm1215 09-25-2007 09:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Just curious......is the Lottery legal in Arizona?

If so, that would qualify as hypocritical....no?
The lottery is quite legal in Arizona, in fact, Powerball is extremely popular in the state.

NT

JJP 09-25-2007 10:45 PM
John
Illinois

How's this for a slogan? Kil Kyl

ALostTexan 09-26-2007 01:54 AM
Update

So far I have a list of 66 names, which is an exact even split 33-33 from Pace Advantage and DerbyTrail, to take to the AZHBPA next week. In speaking with the head of the group, I really think he underestimated how powerful the online group could be, so I simply want to show him the list and the comments posted by everyone on here.

If you have anything at all to say to the horsemen or anyone else in Arizona regarding this law, please post in the thread. I think we can make a statement with our words and apparantely our wallets on this new law.

Thanks to everyone who has shown support on this.

ALostTexan

mes5107 09-26-2007 07:27 AM
Dave

Bozrah, CT

I find it very hypocritical that the state of AZ allows wagers from ADW's into their local betting pools. Is it a crime or not?

ALostTexan 09-26-2007 02:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mes5107
Dave

Bozrah, CT

I find it very hypocritical that the state of AZ allows wagers from ADW's into their local betting pools. Is it a crime or not?
This is a big issue that I have with it. They have established a 1-way street, for money to come into the state from around the country from ADW's, yet ban any money from leaving to support racing anywhere else in the country. That is wrong, and manipulates the market in a very unfair way.

ALostTexan

GPK 09-26-2007 02:23 PM
KLo

Virginia

cowgirlintexas 09-26-2007 06:32 PM
Laura

Vidor, Texas

skippy3481 09-26-2007 07:30 PM
Chad

Indiana

Not only is it an invasion of privacy, but they are simply going to drive people to use offshore books. If people want to gamble, they are going to find a way to do it and by letting this law stand, they are only costing themselves and the horseman money in the future.

otisotisotis 09-26-2007 07:43 PM
gary

ohio

methinks you are supposed to put up borders to keep people out, not in.

herkhorse 09-26-2007 08:17 PM
Tom
NY (and Tucson AZ every Feb)


It's already very hard to play the horses in Az, everything revolves around the dog tracks. The OTB's only let you play a few races from each track and not complete cards-Ridiculous!

ALostTexan 09-26-2007 08:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by herkhorse
Tom
NY (and Tucson AZ every Feb)


It's already very hard to play the horses in Az, everything revolves around the dog tracks. The OTB's only let you play a few races from each track and not complete cards-Ridiculous!
Tom,

Hope you at least make it to Rillito during Feb when you are in Tucson. Not really a part of the issue here, as they aren't carried by any of the ADW's.

ALostTexan

herkhorse 09-26-2007 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ALostTexan
Tom,

Hope you at least make it to Rillito during Feb when you are in Tucson. Not really a part of the issue here, as they aren't carried by any of the ADW's.

ALostTexan
Mostly I'm out there for work, but I try to make it at least once a year. The place Rocks! Love the whole scene.

pdrift1 09-27-2007 12:07 AM
roger
wisconsin

Holland Hacker 09-27-2007 09:04 AM
Bill T.
Milford, NJ

Bad law and should not be passed by the legislature or signed by the Gov.


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