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GPK 08-21-2007 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
She is at Saratoga and unfortunately you missed meeting her.

Heartbroken doesnt begin to convey my feelings at the moment...

Sightseek 08-21-2007 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by GPK
Heartbroken doesnt begin to convey my feelings at the moment...
Chin up, you know I'm here for you if you need someone to talk to.

GPK 08-21-2007 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Chin up, you know I'm here for you if you need someone to talk to.

Thanks. No idea how I made it this long without you...

Sightseek 08-21-2007 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GPK
Thanks. No idea how I made it this long without you...
I'm just in sheer amazement that you've made it without some grits. :D

GPK 08-21-2007 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
I'm just in sheer amazement that you've made it without some grits. :D

True....but that just is on a whole other level.

viscount26 08-21-2007 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
Thanks. No idea how I made it this long without you...
Poor Kev
:D :D

Cannon Shell 08-21-2007 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rags

Last time I looked you were a little under $6,000,000 in earnings this year
Is that the cut off point to which one must adhere to, to comment on trainers?

I thought Mike Vick was a bad guy but I guess I'll have to go kill a couple of dogs to be qualified to comment.

Cannon Shell 08-21-2007 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rags
My boyfriend is. He's about the best in the game.
And this makes YOU an expert?.

Indian Charlie 08-21-2007 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rags
My boyfriend is. He's about the best in the game.
who's your boyfriend, jamie sanders?

Indian Charlie 08-21-2007 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by miraja2
There is something VERY familiar about your style sir.
But the key is that your BOYfriend couldn't possibly be the best in the game, because the best in the game isn't even a boy. Jamie Sanders is a woman.
damn you!

gamblin4ever 08-21-2007 01:15 PM
If a trainer wants to dodge the competition by going in an easier spot then thats fine. But, if they enter a horse then scratch after entries are taken w/o valid excuse(like an injury), then the trainer should be fined. IMO this would limit trainers from entering and then scratching b/c the race came up too tough for their horse.

Cannon Shell 08-21-2007 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by gamblin4ever
If a trainer wants to dodge the competition by going in an easier spot then thats fine. But, if they enter a horse then scratch after entries are taken w/o valid excuse(like an injury), then the trainer should be fined. IMO this would limit trainers from entering and then scratching b/c the race came up too tough for their horse.
Exactly how much of a fine would be a deterent?
Do you know how easy it is to come up with a valid excuse?

parsixfarms 08-21-2007 04:12 PM
I was looking at the PPs for tomorrow's third race. Who scratches: Argentina or Wingspan?

The Indomitable DrugS 08-21-2007 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
She is at Saratoga and unfortunately you missed meeting her.
Wait, GRITS is there?

Sightseek 08-21-2007 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Wait, GRITS is there?
Yup and apparently someone else was too but he doesn't say hello. :p

The Indomitable DrugS 08-21-2007 04:17 PM
I was only there on Saturday....

I was so busy, I didn't even get a chance to look for the great Andy Serling.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-21-2007 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
And this makes YOU an expert?.
Balletto returning as Bobby Frankel's girlfriend just made my day.

I'm serious!

gamblin4ever 08-21-2007 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Exactly how much of a fine would be a deterent?
Do you know how easy it is to come up with a valid excuse?
Not sure on amt. of the fine and valid excuse should be backed up by a vet or steward.

Not trying to change the industry, just tired of seeing trainers scratch horses b/c of weights,post,pace,etc.

If you don't have deterrents in place, trainers like Frankel will enter and then scratch b/c his horse is giving up too much weight. (just an example)
That way we don't end up w/ Graded Stakes w/ 5 horse fields, due to scratches.

I guess i'm just venting frustration..sorry:(

Cannon Shell 08-21-2007 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gamblin4ever
Not sure on amt. of the fine and valid excuse should be backed up by a vet or steward.

Not trying to change the industry, just tired of seeing trainers scratch horses b/c of weights,post,pace,etc.

If you don't have deterrents in place, trainers like Frankel will enter and then scratch b/c his horse is giving up too much weight. (just an example)
That way we don't end up w/ Graded Stakes w/ 5 horse fields, due to scratches.

I guess i'm just venting frustration..sorry:(
No reason to be sorry. But a $250 fine won't keep a guy from scratching especially out of a stake. You do forfeit your entry fee when you scratch out of a stake without a valid medical reason though and those are in the thousands sometimes. Of course it comes out of the owners account not the trainer.

gamblin4ever 08-21-2007 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
No reason to be sorry. But a $250 fine won't keep a guy from scratching especially out of a stake. You do forfeit your entry fee when you scratch out of a stake without a valid medical reason though and those are in the thousands sometimes. Of course it comes out of the owners account not the trainer.
True, how about too many scratches = automatic suspension, say 2 weeks, wouldn.t that be a laugh


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