I bet on Any Given Saturday myself. 200 to win which is a pretty sizable bet for me. How did everybody know this horse was going to win?? The worst kept secret ever. The Dwyer was impressive, I saw that race and saw his , I also bet on him in the Tampa Bay Derby.

For a horse with no heart which was repeated a lot on here this spring his last 2 races have been very impressive. The acceleration was awesome, plus he's now learning to rate, sitting at the rail and waiting and they just galloped. If he goes in the Travers he should get first run on SS, or SS will have to lay closer to the pace. Hope they skip the Travers. But if they beat him on the nuts there. He moves to the top of the list. Wonder if Curlin changes his mind now and goes to the Travers, he did not have the greatest of trips and if you watch the replay he wasn't pushed late. Curlin needs to beat these guys if he wan'ts 3 YO title. But I think AGS and SS are the real 2 best of this group. Although Curlins odds will go up and this race was sneaky good.

He bullied Curlin around the turn and it was lights out after that. 20 days rest is plenty considering how this one has developed. As a horse racing fan, I am fed up with the duck and dodge/we need rest mentality.

tired of it, and changing it are two different things. that's the shame of it.

saying that he might skip the travers would not be MY way of thinking...just throwing it out there that it may well be pletchers. he likes those long layoffs.

I'm not sure if anybody remembers seeing the quote. I think it was in the Racing Form may have been in one of Steve Haskins Columns. Pletcher said when asked about Circular Quay's long layoff, that he would have rested Any Given Saturday from the Tampa Bay Derby all the Way to the Derby if he had the earnings. So it is conceivable that he may give him only one more race before the Breeders Cup.

Great thread.

I love the battle of Images.

Good for you guys who cleaned up.

Hope you bet him Seattle.

Could the Woodward be a possibility for AGS? Woodward is Sept 1st then the JCGC on Sept 29th and then the BCC on Oct 27th. That is about 4 weeks between each start. If he could beat older horses in one of those races and then perform well in the BCC then he could be 3 year old the year.

Street Sense is still the leader of the division. :)

Interesting possibility if he can't run in the Travers but I think TAP will do everything he can to run AGS there. . . He's got plenty of older horses that would be contenders in the Woodward and no one else for the Travers. As we all know you can't have a graded stakes in NY without a Pletcher or two. . .

I would assume he would want to keep Lawyer Ron and AGS away from each other. There is also the Super Derby which I think would fit AGS very well.

Needless to say, the 2nd half of the year looks pretty interesting.

Super Derby's for 3 year olds. . . I think Lawyer Ron either won it or atleast ran in it last year . . .

Yes, I meant AGS. Thanks

The interesting thing to me is that after the Street Sense's Jim Dandy and the AGS's Dwyer and Haskell, this year's Tampa Bay Derby shapes up as an even more memorable race.
It could end up being a race like the 2004 Woodward which was a very exciting race at the time, but grew siginificantly in stature given the subsequent accomplishments of the two horses involved in the stretch battle.

Along with the pointlessness of comparing two races run a week apart on two different tracks (which others have pointed out), I HATE it when people act like the only thing that matters is the BCC. The Haskell is a G1 race. It isn't some prep race for a race run three months from now. Who gives a rat's ass how this colt compares with Lawyer Ron right now?

Early move aside in the WV Derby...even the 3rd place finisher has been raking in the cash in the 'second tier' stakes.

And the 4th place finisher, who has a heart the size of a pea, won a Grade 2 sprinting at Saratoga last week.

I am with you PP. The Dandy used to be run 13 days before the Travers. Then the meet went to 5 weeks and it became 20 days. Then the meet went to 6 weeks and the Dandy remained 20 days before the Travers, until recently when it went to 27 days. Blame it all on the Breeders Cup for the duck and dodge approach.

My guess is that Curlin goes to the Super Derby. La Downs will up the purse from 500 K to $1 mil if any of the TC winners shows up. Should Curlin go there, the extra money may be enough to lure AGS to the bayou for a rematch with Curlin.