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MaTH716 06-28-2007 05:21 PM
Pelfrey is pitching Friday. Maine is alot better than I thought he was going to be. And Chuck is right about Perez, he is so wild at times. But he is a 25 year old lefty that throws 95 MPH. I also think that they should have given Heilman a shot to be a starter this year. Bottom line is they have options. They have players on the team and on the farm that have value, so if they want to deal they can.

Mortimer 06-28-2007 06:03 PM
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God.

Do you always have to say the exact wrong thing?


r u going to let me get away with this???

Cannon Shell 06-28-2007 08:10 PM
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r u going to let me get away wih this???
you are new and improved...just figured you had a Paul Byrd fetish

Mortimer 06-28-2007 08:19 PM
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you are new and improved...just figured you had a Paul Byrd fetish
Think of what HandShadow thought of the old me.

I will make one comment.

I am not a Byrd fan,but as a 4th to 5th starter I'd like to know who boasts much better.The problem is primarily Wedge and his complete inability to realize where to put who as well as having some of the most eye popping philosophies known to baseball kind.....no conception how to win little ball games.I have to give Shapiro credit here as well.

Cannon Shell 06-28-2007 08:19 PM
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Pelfrey is pitching Friday. Maine is alot better than I thought he was going to be. And Chuck is right about Perez, he is so wild at times. But he is a 25 year old lefty that throws 95 MPH. I also think that they should have given Heilman a shot to be a starter this year. Bottom line is they have options. They have players on the team and on the farm that have value, so if they want to deal they can.
Heilman has an era of 5.88 as a starter...maybe Willie was right?

Perez was a dominating pitcher for the Pirates in 2004 before he fell apart. The talent is there,

Supah Brother 06-28-2007 08:23 PM
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LOL your sorry a$4 franchise actually spends money for a change, youre still below 500 halfway through and well back in your crappy division....................and actually think ya have room to talk? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yeah how about that sweep????? GOOD GAME :D

Cannon Shell 06-28-2007 08:24 PM
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Think of what HandShadow thought of the old me.

I will make one comment.

I am not a Byrd fan,but as a 4th to 5th starter I'd like to know who boasts much better.The problem is primarily Wedge and his complete inability to realize where to put who as well as having some of the most eye popping philosophies known to baseball kind.....no conception how to win little ball games.I have to give Shapiro credit here as well.
While I have to admit I was a little skeptical about Borowski, they have only blown 5 saves which is very good. But CC is due for an injury, Carmona is falling apart and Casy Blake has to shave that beard.

Mortimer 06-28-2007 08:32 PM
If you check CC does not not have history of injury...Carmona could be..or just had a bad game which is more what I think.......Blake looks too fuzzy..I agree.....Borowski is scarier than Wickman.





But ,just one example, Wedge players like Nixon have to go. Gutierrez is going to be a junior model of Clemente....if Wedge ever sees it before he decides to dump him like Phillips and the pitcher Baltimore took off our hands. That's only a snippet.

Cannon Shell 06-28-2007 08:55 PM
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If you check CC does not not have history of injury...
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Carmona could be..or just had a bad game which is more what I think........





But ,just one example, Wedge players like Nixon have to go. Gutierrez is going to be a junior model of Clemente....if Wedge ever sees it before he decides to dump him like Phillips and the pitcher Baltimore took off our hands. That's only a snippet.
Exactly, he is due

The thing I could never understand about making a closer out of Carmona is that he is pretty hitable and doesn't strike guys out, which you would think is the mark of top closers. I guess because he is a big guy and they needed someone to be the closer.

Getting Nixon didn't seem to make much sense and I guess hasn't.

I have never understood why Shapiro has been in love with Wedge, still dont.

Cannon Shell 06-30-2007 09:28 PM
Interesting take...
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...articleid=6388


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