First of all, I never said any of that ( most notably I would never forget the name of Risen Star's trainer ). However, the highlighted portion of your post is a hoot.

Thanks again.

Kristin Mulhall is also another decent female trainer. Janine Sahadi wasn't too shabby either. Don't know what happened to her.

uh, far be it from me to chirp in being a novice and all but I don't think Andy needs this kind of jazz. Ever buy a DRF? His picture is in it almost every day in that little full page ad (youbet). Credentials speak louder then your jazz, instead of cutting someone down why not have a decent exchange or just let it be?

I like Carla Gaines, in addition to the others mentioned.
Also Paula Capestro and recently Kristin Mulhal.

you people really think the gender of the trainer has any impact whatsoever?

you people? YOU PEOPLE??!?!?! WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY YOU PEOPLE!?!?!?

it does when you buy 3 horses for a minimum amount of money and make all 3 of them run that makes you great and all 3 have done well. from the same horse sale

she has made in excess of $5 million dollars this year in her pocket pure profit, how could that be disapointing in any way?

But he messed up badly with Star!

I think you are failing to see the major disconnect here. Jamie Sanders is not a great trainer, nor is she in the "elite" company so to speak. She is a rookie trainer on her own, and has some credentials having worked for Nick Zito -- now, there is a great trainer. Jamie Sanders doesn't have people banging down her door, not because she is a woman, but because she is new and unproven. And, so far her #'s -- the #'s people, who know what they are looking at -- are not that good. It is well known and well accpeted that she shoots very low #'s. She has done very well -- financially -- on this one colt, but that doesn't get you the automatic entry into the "great trainer" club or the "elite" company. Check back in another 10 years or so. Buying a horse for $9k and earning $500k, and having the colt be worth a few million doesn't make you a great trainer.

In addition, it is also fairly well known that she often doesn't place her horses well. That is the reputation she is developing on the backstretch. You want to attract owners as a new, rookie, just going on your own trainer -- it's very simple . . . win races!!!

Eric

i am not her, but that horse is worth at least 7 or 8 million dollars after that race yesterday and she owns a big piece of him.
if you only knew how hard it was to win a race,,,any race even in arizona or new mexico,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is all about the horses the trainer,jockey have less than 3% of what happens actually im giving the jockey and trainer to much credit,,,btw the trainers and jockeys will tell you the same thing ,,,every one of them

i give her the ike turner award for that bad dew .."girl git yo wig togetha":D

Speaks to my earlier points!
Again, she a new trainer, certainly not great...not experienced (as trainer) enough yet to really be fairly evaluated. What she does have is experience working for some great trainers...time will tell with her career.

FYI, Roussel hasn't trained since like 6 years ago, when he hired his assistant Lara Van Deren to take over. They don't run nearly the numbers they used to

why would you say that nick zito is a great horse trainer? he let jamie sanders train his horses for years then he had the guy training his horses who took over the whittny horses...nick zito hasnt trained any horses in years. you have to be near the horses to train them, same with baffert,lukas etc...pletcher is to some degree still hands on but aint a man in the world who can train more than 20 horses at the same time,,,steve asmussen doesnt even go to the barn but once a week, so who is training those horses. john ward hasnt touched a horse outside of the paddock in years,,,the list goes on and on,,,these guys are business men not horse trainers,,,jamie sanders is still a horse trainer, and its 99% horse and 1% luck the trainer and everything else have no meaning